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> This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities Ukranian cities are absolutely being leveled by Russian munitions. > or cut the Ukranian gas pipeline (which is th

> This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities Ukranian cities are absolutely being leveled by Russian munitions. > or cut the Ukranian gas pipeline (which is the only source of reliable income for Ukraine for all 30 years of its existence). The pipelines are the biggest source of money into Russia as well. Russia has tried to go around Ukraine with the NordStream2 pipeline, but NATO countries stalled that for years precisely because they didn't want to let Russia cut Ukraine out.

DonHopkins 4y ago
>> This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities >Ukranian cities are absolutely being leveled by Russian munitions. It's at least interesting to see first hand how deeply delusional and deceived about reality so many Russian citizens act, that they could make such blatantly false easily disproven claims that fly in the face of the harsh undeniable reality and indisputable objective evidence that Putin has been bombing Ukrainian cities into the ground and mass murdering civilians. It makes me wonder if they're willingly in on the lies and supporting and spreading them well knowing they're false out of a misguided sense of patriotism and loyalty to Putin (or simply fear and desperation?), the same way Trump supporters are LARPing by denying he lost the election and making contradictory claims like FBI planted evidence that Trump telepathically declassified anyway, when they know quite well that's a bald faced lie, or if they're actually as naive and gullible and easily deceived as they're acting. Who do they actually think they're fooling by parroting ridiculous mendacious lies like "This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities", if not only themselves?
- microtonal 4y ago
  It's at least interesting to see first hand how deeply delusional and deceived about reality so many Russian citizens act Or they could be a paid troll? Most of their comment history consists of pro-Russian, anti-Western rants, with only a few tech-related things in between.
vixen99 4y ago
Yes. This is so important it's worth repetition. 'This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities' is an untrue statement - among others. It isn't Western propaganda. As you put it 'Ukranian cities are absolutely being leveled by Russian munitions.'
- anticodon 4y ago
  - DonHopkins 4y ago
    You said "This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities". That was a lie. Oh now you're moving the goalposts and trying to redefine what you said and divert the discussion. But what you said of your own free will (or is somebody holding a gun to your head?) is up there in black and tan for everyone to read, and even if you ninja edit your own words, you've been quoted enough times that nobody's going to forget what you said. Your claim that "you can't win otherwise" when you unilaterally attack a sovereign country actually means that you should not unilaterally attack a sovereign country, not that Putin didn't bomb Ukrainian cities. It doesn't prove your lie, it just proves how inhumane and aggressive you are. If you can't win otherwise, then you should just fucking well lose, instead of unilaterally starting a war, bombing cities, and killing innocent civilians, then mendaciously lying about it, because you should not have attacked The Ukraine in the first place. Then you wouldn't need to lie about it, huh? Your rebuttal that "The cities where the actual war is going on. Not all the cities..." is bullshit because Russia brought the war to them. The cities that PUTIN UNILATERALLY ATTACKED are being bombed. Not bombing some cities doesn't justify bombing others, or invading a sovereign nation. Putin DID bomb Ukrainian cities. And you said he didn't. So you LIED. Not just a little white lie. A huge mendacious lie that attempts to justify and cover up war crimes. That makes you complicit.
anticodon 4y ago
Shadowed_ 4y ago
I even heard people who support Russia claiming that Ukrainians bombarded/shelled their own cities...

DonHopkins 4y ago

>> This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities >Ukranian cities are absolutely being leveled by Russian munitions. It's at least interesting to see first hand how deeply delusional and deceived about reality so many Russian citizens act, that they could make such blatantly false easily disproven claims that fly in the face of the harsh undeniable reality and indisputable objective evidence that Putin has been bombing Ukrainian cities into the ground and mass murdering civilians. It makes me wonder if they're willingly in on the lies and supporting and spreading them well knowing they're false out of a misguided sense of patriotism and loyalty to Putin (or simply fear and desperation?), the same way Trump supporters are LARPing by denying he lost the election and making contradictory claims like FBI planted evidence that Trump telepathically declassified anyway, when they know quite well that's a bald faced lie, or if they're actually as naive and gullible and easily deceived as they're acting. Who do they actually think they're fooling by parroting ridiculous mendacious lies like "This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities", if not only themselves?

microtonal 4y ago
It's at least interesting to see first hand how deeply delusional and deceived about reality so many Russian citizens act Or they could be a paid troll? Most of their comment history consists of pro-Russian, anti-Western rants, with only a few tech-related things in between.

vixen99 4y ago

Yes. This is so important it's worth repetition. 'This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities' is an untrue statement - among others. It isn't Western propaganda. As you put it 'Ukranian cities are absolutely being leveled by Russian munitions.'

anticodon 4y ago
- DonHopkins 4y ago
  You said "This is why we don't bomb Ukranian cities". That was a lie. Oh now you're moving the goalposts and trying to redefine what you said and divert the discussion. But what you said of your own free will (or is somebody holding a gun to your head?) is up there in black and tan for everyone to read, and even if you ninja edit your own words, you've been quoted enough times that nobody's going to forget what you said. Your claim that "you can't win otherwise" when you unilaterally attack a sovereign country actually means that you should not unilaterally attack a sovereign country, not that Putin didn't bomb Ukrainian cities. It doesn't prove your lie, it just proves how inhumane and aggressive you are. If you can't win otherwise, then you should just fucking well lose, instead of unilaterally starting a war, bombing cities, and killing innocent civilians, then mendaciously lying about it, because you should not have attacked The Ukraine in the first place. Then you wouldn't need to lie about it, huh? Your rebuttal that "The cities where the actual war is going on. Not all the cities..." is bullshit because Russia brought the war to them. The cities that PUTIN UNILATERALLY ATTACKED are being bombed. Not bombing some cities doesn't justify bombing others, or invading a sovereign nation. Putin DID bomb Ukrainian cities. And you said he didn't. So you LIED. Not just a little white lie. A huge mendacious lie that attempts to justify and cover up war crimes. That makes you complicit.

anticodon 4y ago

Shadowed_ 4y ago

I even heard people who support Russia claiming that Ukrainians bombarded/shelled their own cities...