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>Will this break Netflix/YouTube/AmazonVideo? >No. This does not break or limit access to subscription services or other DRMed content. I can't run Netflix ap

by agilob 4y ago

>Will this break Netflix/YouTube/AmazonVideo? >No. This does not break or limit access to subscription services or other DRMed content. I can't run Netflix app on rooted Android, but could on a rooted TV. I guess this isn't something Netflix was prepared for.

yellow_lead 4y ago
That's funny. Wonder if there are any DRM keys that can be extracted after root.
- Mindwipe 4y ago
  If there were they would be revoked.
dogma1138 4y ago
I guess their WebOS app doesn’t have root detection.
- mcv 4y ago
  What happens if they add it?
  - prmoustache 4y ago
    They only add it on mobile devices were you can download the content to view it online as a decryption key has to be stored locally and the content producer don't want them to facilitate piracy /backup copies.
- password4321 4y ago
  Yet!
yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
You can also watch pretty much anything on a "rooted" computer (i.e. one where the user has admin access). I'm not entirely sure why phones are the one device where that's somehow considered a big deal.
- arianvanp 4y ago
  But Netflix only allows 720p on computers because of this. So there's that...
  - norman784 4y ago
    I thought that 720p was a linux limit, AFAIK on macOS and windows at least you get 1080p, but sucks that you can't watch in your fully capable hardware in a good quality. Amazon does the same.
    - gerdesj 4y ago
      Not on my gear (all Linux). Also, what do you think Android is?
    - tpxl 4y ago
      720p is non-widewine-DRM limit afaik. Free as in freedom distros don't have proprietary DRM that would allow you to watch more than 720p by default, but you can install the proprietary blobs and get higher resolutions.
      - easrng 4y ago
        You need widevine to play Netflix at all, and widevine is always proprietary. It has a few modes though, L3 is software only (easier to crack) and it's commonly limited to lower resolutions. L1 uses hardware to decrypt and will only output video over encrypted connections (like HDCP). Since L1 is harder to crack you need it to get the full resolution. I don't think there's any implementation of L1 for Linux other than for android and probably some custom embedded ports. There's also L2 but idk what that does.
        Mindwipe 4y ago
        > You need widevine to play Netflix at all No you don't. Safari doesn't support Widevine at all for example.
reyqn 4y ago
You can run Netflix on rooted Android, you just have to hide root from the app
- Iolaum 4y ago
  the operative word here is "just" As someone who has hid root from banking apps in the past, there is no just here. You need to keep up with release notes of software updates in several components (custom OS, magisk and any roothide mods you use). That's fun to do for a while, but not long term. And definitely something I wouldn't expect from the mythical average user.
  - yusi-san 4y ago
    I agree, but the average user doesn't generally root his android phone. If you have the technical abilities/motivation to root your phone, you may have the ability to use MagiskHide and manage an exclusion list in Magisk.
  - gommm 4y ago
    I agree, it's not for the average user. I'm happy to root my android (mostly because android backups really suck otherwise) but would definitely not recommend it to most people. I think it took me an average of 2 hours every 6 months to keep hiding root correctly.
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  > you just have to hide root from the app No longer going to be possible due to hardware remote attestation.

by agilob 4y ago

yellow_lead 4y ago

That's funny. Wonder if there are any DRM keys that can be extracted after root.

Mindwipe 4y ago
If there were they would be revoked.

dogma1138 4y ago

I guess their WebOS app doesn’t have root detection.

mcv 4y ago
What happens if they add it?
- prmoustache 4y ago
  They only add it on mobile devices were you can download the content to view it online as a decryption key has to be stored locally and the content producer don't want them to facilitate piracy /backup copies.
password4321 4y ago
Yet!

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

You can also watch pretty much anything on a "rooted" computer (i.e. one where the user has admin access). I'm not entirely sure why phones are the one device where that's somehow considered a big deal.

arianvanp 4y ago
But Netflix only allows 720p on computers because of this. So there's that...
- norman784 4y ago
  I thought that 720p was a linux limit, AFAIK on macOS and windows at least you get 1080p, but sucks that you can't watch in your fully capable hardware in a good quality. Amazon does the same.
  - gerdesj 4y ago
    Not on my gear (all Linux). Also, what do you think Android is?
  - tpxl 4y ago
    720p is non-widewine-DRM limit afaik. Free as in freedom distros don't have proprietary DRM that would allow you to watch more than 720p by default, but you can install the proprietary blobs and get higher resolutions.
    - easrng 4y ago
      You need widevine to play Netflix at all, and widevine is always proprietary. It has a few modes though, L3 is software only (easier to crack) and it's commonly limited to lower resolutions. L1 uses hardware to decrypt and will only output video over encrypted connections (like HDCP). Since L1 is harder to crack you need it to get the full resolution. I don't think there's any implementation of L1 for Linux other than for android and probably some custom embedded ports. There's also L2 but idk what that does.
      - Mindwipe 4y ago
        > You need widevine to play Netflix at all No you don't. Safari doesn't support Widevine at all for example.

reyqn 4y ago

You can run Netflix on rooted Android, you just have to hide root from the app

Iolaum 4y ago
the operative word here is "just" As someone who has hid root from banking apps in the past, there is no just here. You need to keep up with release notes of software updates in several components (custom OS, magisk and any roothide mods you use). That's fun to do for a while, but not long term. And definitely something I wouldn't expect from the mythical average user.
- yusi-san 4y ago
  I agree, but the average user doesn't generally root his android phone. If you have the technical abilities/motivation to root your phone, you may have the ability to use MagiskHide and manage an exclusion list in Magisk.
- gommm 4y ago
  I agree, it's not for the average user. I'm happy to root my android (mostly because android backups really suck otherwise) but would definitely not recommend it to most people. I think it took me an average of 2 hours every 6 months to keep hiding root correctly.
matheusmoreira 4y ago
> you just have to hide root from the app No longer going to be possible due to hardware remote attestation.