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While I mostly agree with you, banning the personal accounts from their team is a bit much. Specially considering how that also includes access to Instagram,

While I mostly agree with you, banning the personal accounts from their *team* is a bit much. Specially considering how that also includes access to Instagram, and WhatsApp, WhatsApp being the biggest issue here since in many countries that is considered a way of conducting business.

Matheus28 4y ago
I agree, it's a bit much. But they are all violating the ToS they accepted so...
- LtWorf 4y ago
  You mean that document saying something like: "we can do what we want, no recourse possible"? That should be forbidden too.
  - Matheus28 4y ago
    I'm pretty sure there's a line there about reverse engineering
    - mrguyorama 4y ago
      You can put whatever you want in a contract, and the other party can sign it, but that is not enough for it to be valid. Contract law usually has call outs against obviously absurd, overreaching, or "I own everything and anything" clauses
- waitforit 4y ago
  By that logic, every employee of Apple/Google/Meta or at least the ones working on related projects should be handled a fine every time Apple/Google/Meta gets fined by the EU for breaking the law/abusing its position? The are violating the law after all.
  - Matheus28 4y ago
    I don't see how to conclude that from my logic. An equivalent one is a company not allowing Google employees to use their services for whatever reason. That's fine and acceptable.
z9znz 4y ago
> WhatsApp being the biggest issue here since in many countries that is considered a way of conducting business. Absolutely the best reason why businesses should move to Signal. Imagine if your business gets cut off from Meta products, or if at any moment some of your customers get cut off. Facebook is an extremely limited and poor platform for representing a business, and it too should be avoided for the same reasons (and for being such a garbage fire in general).
- grnmamba 4y ago
  Signal is another centralized platform which explicitly prohibits using 3rd party clients.

While I mostly agree with you, banning the personal accounts from their *team* is a bit much. Specially considering how that also includes access to Instagram,

Matheus28 4y ago

I agree, it's a bit much. But they are all violating the ToS they accepted so...

LtWorf 4y ago
You mean that document saying something like: "we can do what we want, no recourse possible"? That should be forbidden too.
- Matheus28 4y ago
  I'm pretty sure there's a line there about reverse engineering
  - mrguyorama 4y ago
    You can put whatever you want in a contract, and the other party can sign it, but that is not enough for it to be valid. Contract law usually has call outs against obviously absurd, overreaching, or "I own everything and anything" clauses
waitforit 4y ago
By that logic, every employee of Apple/Google/Meta or at least the ones working on related projects should be handled a fine every time Apple/Google/Meta gets fined by the EU for breaking the law/abusing its position? The are violating the law after all.
- Matheus28 4y ago
  I don't see how to conclude that from my logic. An equivalent one is a company not allowing Google employees to use their services for whatever reason. That's fine and acceptable.

z9znz 4y ago

> WhatsApp being the biggest issue here since in many countries that is considered a way of conducting business. Absolutely the best reason why businesses should move to Signal. Imagine if your business gets cut off from Meta products, or if at any moment some of your customers get cut off. Facebook is an extremely limited and poor platform for representing a business, and it too should be avoided for the same reasons (and for being such a garbage fire in general).

grnmamba 4y ago
Signal is another centralized platform which explicitly prohibits using 3rd party clients.