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i assume for people buying prepaid roaming sims or whatever there's no personal data? or is this not the case?

waste_monk 4y ago
ACMA [1] state you just need name, DOB, and address for prepaid service. Post-paid generally is a lot stricter e.g. most telcos want 100 points of ID with at least one primary document such as driver's license or passport [2]. Not sure if that's a legislative requirement though, or just good business practice. [1] https://www.acma.gov.au/acmas-rules-id-checks-prepaid-mobiles https://www.acma.gov.au/acmas-rules-id-checks-prepaid-mobile... [2] https://www.telstra.com.au/support/account-payment/id-check-for-new-account https://www.telstra.com.au/support/account-payment/id-check-...
- paranoidrobot 4y ago
  Post-paid involves a credit-check. That's what they're using the ID for. They won't let you open a post-paid account if you've got a history of non-payment.
  - waste_monk 4y ago
    I understand that, I had been under the impression there was also legislation requiring telcos to verify customer identity (so you couldn't have an anonymous phone plan, or easily have one under a false identity). But I can't seem to find it, or it may not have been real to begin with.
lysp 4y ago
In the 10k leak, there were 151 overseas passports included. So about 1-2%. All sims need personal data - otherwise overseas could be a loophole to get a ghost sim.
- brokenmachine 4y ago
  *>ghost sim Do all countries require a ton of personal info to get a sim? Why do we accept it as a given that the government must know who owns a phone? Is this necessary?
- collegeburner 4y ago
  "ghost sim" damn they really sold y'all that koolaid huh? in America anyone can go buy an el cheapo prepaid sim at a gas station with no ID, in cash, and it's not a "ghost sim" it's just a prepaid phone (or a burner if you're fearmongering). i hate terms like this that beg the question that the default state is the government knowing who you are and anything else is a "ghost" sim/gun/whatever and is "dangerous".

ACMA [1] state you just need name, DOB, and address for prepaid service. Post-paid generally is a lot stricter e.g. most telcos want 100 points of ID with at least one primary document such as driver's license or passport [2]. Not sure if that's a legislative requirement though, or just good business practice. [1] https://www.acma.gov.au/acmas-rules-id-checks-prepaid-mobiles https://www.acma.gov.au/acmas-rules-id-checks-prepaid-mobile... [2] https://www.telstra.com.au/support/account-payment/id-check-for-new-account https://www.telstra.com.au/support/account-payment/id-check-...

paranoidrobot 4y ago
Post-paid involves a credit-check. That's what they're using the ID for. They won't let you open a post-paid account if you've got a history of non-payment.
- waste_monk 4y ago
  I understand that, I had been under the impression there was also legislation requiring telcos to verify customer identity (so you couldn't have an anonymous phone plan, or easily have one under a false identity). But I can't seem to find it, or it may not have been real to begin with.

lysp 4y ago

In the 10k leak, there were 151 overseas passports included. So about 1-2%. All sims need personal data - otherwise overseas could be a loophole to get a ghost sim.

brokenmachine 4y ago
*>ghost sim Do all countries require a ton of personal info to get a sim? Why do we accept it as a given that the government must know who owns a phone? Is this necessary?
collegeburner 4y ago
"ghost sim" damn they really sold y'all that koolaid huh? in America anyone can go buy an el cheapo prepaid sim at a gas station with no ID, in cash, and it's not a "ghost sim" it's just a prepaid phone (or a burner if you're fearmongering). i hate terms like this that beg the question that the default state is the government knowing who you are and anything else is a "ghost" sim/gun/whatever and is "dangerous".