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First, thank you to the poster for posting this - I haven't laughed this hard in a while. Second - thank you to the person who actually made this. This is inc

First, thank you to the poster for posting this - I haven't laughed this hard in a while. Second - thank you to the person who actually made this. This is incredibly hilarious (just based on the project I'm gonna go ahead an assume they have an account here :) ) Lastly - I know that this is a joke project, but one thing I'm not understanding: how does the system read the current state of the chess board? The, er, Bluetooth/WiFi 'output' of the system is clear enough, but I'm not clear on how the current chess board is input into the system so that Stockfish can actually compute the next move. (This is a semi-serious question - if you know I'd be curious to find out, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over this and I don't expect anyone else to waste time on it either :) )

tibbar 4y ago
In the proposed cheating scheme, you have an accomplice who reads the moves of the game as they're broadcast over the internet and then transmits the next move to you.
- mackrevinack 4y ago
  and they also have a buttplug but one with a squeeze sensor in it so they can send morse code with their sphincter
bombcar 4y ago
I believe the idea is an audience accomplice enters the board moves for you.
gpm 4y ago
The actual implementation just takes them from the console. If you were actually going to use this to cheat in professional tournaments, I imagine you'd just use the API of a chess website that is broadcasting the game live. Lichess has a free, documented, API for instance.
- eru 4y ago
  Broadcasts have a 15 minute delay to avoid this kind of cheating.
  - gpm 4y ago
    Typically not, though they did introduce one in the St Louis tournament after Carlsen withdrew. I wouldn't be surprised if they became more common going forwards.
    - joshspankit 4y ago
      Agreed. There are many legal reasons that they could not perform a body search for anal cheating devices, butt more importantly: human perseverance has shown that some communication devices will always be able to stay hidden...no matter how invasive the search.
      - eru 4y ago
        You could fix the communication by putting participants in something like a Faraday cage, or lining the walls with lead etc. However, if someone puts the actual chess computer inside their body, even those measures won't help.
  - zarzavat 4y ago
    15 minute delay doesn’t seem sufficient in a classical game. Spending 15 minutes on one crucial move is common and wouldn’t raise suspicion. Give a little squeeze at the start of your turn, to indicate that you wish to request the next engine move, then sit there for 15 minutes appearing deep in thought until the answer is beamed to your behind. Alternatively the device could stream all the moves with the move number encoded, so it could be entirely unidirectional and you wouldn’t need an input method. Just wait 15 minutes for the next move.
  - cranium 4y ago
    It would complicate the buttocol a bit but one could imagine having the engine predict the opponent next moves and propose different responses to them: if e5f4, then e3f4 – if c7c5 then ...
saghm 4y ago
Maybe if there's a model with sensor data, they can implement two way communication through clenches? Just need to make sure to avoid having gassy food for lunch or else you might end up miscommunicating a bit.
RonSijm 4y ago
> Second - thank you to the person who actually made this. This is incredibly hilarious Hey there, thank you, I'm the creator of this. > I'm gonna go ahead an assume they have an account here I have an account here, but I don't use ycombinator this much. Just got notified by someone that a thread about my project is getting some attention here > Lastly - I know that this is a joke project, but one thing I'm not understanding: how does the system read the current state of the chess board? It gets the state of the board though a manually inputted FEN code. Unless the user of this would hook it up with a camera and scan the board in real time, it's assumed that whoever is using this has someone helping them. So the helper would operate the backend, input the board, and send it to the end-user
- iNerdier 4y ago
  So the helper operates the back end which sends it to, the back end?
  - bochoh 4y ago
    So it’s somewhat of a B2B operation
  - fcubed 4y ago
    an end-to-end architecture
  - mozey 4y ago
    Requires tight coupling and dependency injection
    - arispen 4y ago
      made my day
- matheusmoreira 4y ago
  You could allow the chess player to input moves into the system through an anal sphincter contraction sensor. https://www.e-arm.org/journal/view.php?number=1548 https://www.e-arm.org/journal/view.php?number=1548

tibbar 4y ago

In the proposed cheating scheme, you have an accomplice who reads the moves of the game as they're broadcast over the internet and then transmits the next move to you.

mackrevinack 4y ago
and they also have a buttplug but one with a squeeze sensor in it so they can send morse code with their sphincter

bombcar 4y ago

I believe the idea is an audience accomplice enters the board moves for you.

gpm 4y ago

The actual implementation just takes them from the console. If you were actually going to use this to cheat in professional tournaments, I imagine you'd just use the API of a chess website that is broadcasting the game live. Lichess has a free, documented, API for instance.

eru 4y ago
Broadcasts have a 15 minute delay to avoid this kind of cheating.
- gpm 4y ago
  Typically not, though they did introduce one in the St Louis tournament after Carlsen withdrew. I wouldn't be surprised if they became more common going forwards.
  - joshspankit 4y ago
    Agreed. There are many legal reasons that they could not perform a body search for anal cheating devices, butt more importantly: human perseverance has shown that some communication devices will always be able to stay hidden...no matter how invasive the search.
    - eru 4y ago
      You could fix the communication by putting participants in something like a Faraday cage, or lining the walls with lead etc. However, if someone puts the actual chess computer inside their body, even those measures won't help.
- zarzavat 4y ago
  15 minute delay doesn’t seem sufficient in a classical game. Spending 15 minutes on one crucial move is common and wouldn’t raise suspicion. Give a little squeeze at the start of your turn, to indicate that you wish to request the next engine move, then sit there for 15 minutes appearing deep in thought until the answer is beamed to your behind. Alternatively the device could stream all the moves with the move number encoded, so it could be entirely unidirectional and you wouldn’t need an input method. Just wait 15 minutes for the next move.
- cranium 4y ago
  It would complicate the buttocol a bit but one could imagine having the engine predict the opponent next moves and propose different responses to them: if e5f4, then e3f4 – if c7c5 then ...

saghm 4y ago

Maybe if there's a model with sensor data, they can implement two way communication through clenches? Just need to make sure to avoid having gassy food for lunch or else you might end up miscommunicating a bit.

RonSijm 4y ago

> Second - thank you to the person who actually made this. This is incredibly hilarious Hey there, thank you, I'm the creator of this. > I'm gonna go ahead an assume they have an account here I have an account here, but I don't use ycombinator this much. Just got notified by someone that a thread about my project is getting some attention here > Lastly - I know that this is a joke project, but one thing I'm not understanding: how does the system read the current state of the chess board? It gets the state of the board though a manually inputted FEN code. Unless the user of this would hook it up with a camera and scan the board in real time, it's assumed that whoever is using this has someone helping them. So the helper would operate the backend, input the board, and send it to the end-user

iNerdier 4y ago
So the helper operates the back end which sends it to, the back end?
- bochoh 4y ago
  So it’s somewhat of a B2B operation
- fcubed 4y ago
  an end-to-end architecture
- mozey 4y ago
  Requires tight coupling and dependency injection
  - arispen 4y ago
    made my day
matheusmoreira 4y ago
You could allow the chess player to input moves into the system through an anal sphincter contraction sensor. https://www.e-arm.org/journal/view.php?number=1548 https://www.e-arm.org/journal/view.php?number=1548