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Scientists find wreckage of ship that tried to warn Titanic of iceberg
- neonate 4y agohttps://web.archive.org/web/20220928220925/https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/titanic-warning-ss-mesaba-irish-sea-intl-scli-scn/index.html https://web.archive.org/web/20220928220925/https://www.cnn.c...
- dmix 4y ago> Its exact location was unknown for more than a century, but scientists have now found the wreck of the Mesaba by using multibeam sonar. The offshore surveying tool uses sound waves to enable seabed mapping in such detail that the superstructure can be revealed on sonar images, allowing researchers at Bangor University and Bournemouth University in the UK to positively identify the shipwreck in the Irish Sea. TIL, the radar is detailed enough to ID the ships without using a submarine.
- jonny_eh 4y agoCan it find MH370?
- unstatusthequo 4y agoInteresting idea, though I suspect a ship of that size didn’t break up as much as MH370 probably did. This would make detection harder since the remaining pieces would be much smaller.
- doodlebugging 4y agoYes. You have to be searching the area where the plane crashed though. So far they have only searched the area where the plane did not crash. Uncertainty in the final minutes of flight have contributed to making the job of locating any wreckage very difficult. The ocean is large and deep and finding something as small as a passenger jet is hard unless you can narrow the search area.
- bagels 4y agoWell, maybe they should try searching where the plane did crash?
- FooHentai 4y agoPerhaps it crashed outside of the environment.
- midoridensha 4y agoI'm thinking the plane entered a portal to the future, and some fragments were sent back to make people in our timeline think it crashed.
- speed_spread 4y agoPlaneOutOfBoundsException
- keeganpoppen 4y agointo another environment... no no no the ship crashed beyond the environment; it's not in the environment. ... (for the benefit of anyone who doesn't get how great a reference this is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgrX7uOZqHI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgrX7uOZqHI)
- AmVess 4y agoThey don't know where it crashed. Makes it hard to find. Air France plane went down. They know where it went down and it still took them 2 years to locate it. The ocean is a HUGE place.
- doodlebugging 4y agoYou always find something in the last place you look.
- iampivot 4y agoI always find things in the first place i looked, because i didn't look properly.
- oldgradstudent 4y agoThey've used multibeam sonars among other types of sonars, without success. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOjVq5szAoU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOjVq5szAoU The range of sonars is quite limited and the ocean is huge. There's really no point in searching unless you have a good starting point.
- oldgradstudent 4y ago> TIL, the radar is detailed enough to ID the ships without using a submarine. Sonar, not radar. There are other types of sonar which produce good images, such as side-scan sonar: https://www.shipwreckworld.com/articles/side-scan-sonar-images https://www.shipwreckworld.com/articles/side-scan-sonar-imag... Even Garmin makes them for ridiculously low prices (compared to what I remembered from the 1990s).
- yieldcrv 4y agoThe real question is how many other wreckages did they find along the way
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- saiya-jin 4y agoI just hope that this sonar is not messing up with marine life and its communication/orientation.
- cogman10 4y ago> The Mesaba continued as a merchant ship until it was torpedoed by a German submarine while in convoy in 1918. Twenty people, including the ship's commander, died. For some reason I read the title thinking that both ships sank that night. Apparently this one survived until WW1.
- nickpinkston 4y agoSame for the Britannic, Titanic's sister ship that was converted into a hospital ships and then torpedoed (or mined?) and sank faster than her sister.
- akiselev 4y agoViolet Jessop [1] survived both! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Jessop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Jessop
- rdc12 4y agoAnd the collision of the RMS Olympic (the first of the three in that family) with the HMS Hawke. As did the coal stoker Arthur Priest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_John_Priest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_John_Priest
- unlog 4y agoReminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsinkable_Sam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsinkable_Sam
- robswc 4y agoGlad I'm not the only one. Was thinking my memory can't be _that_ bad haha.
- bricemo 4y agoRight, this is an incredible clever headline. I visualized a ship, screaming at the top of their lungs, but sinking just before getting within earshot
- 8bitsrule 4y agoMore on the Mesaba (ex-Winifreda). [http://www.theyard.info/ships/ships.asp?entryid=319 http://www.theyard.info/ships/ships.asp?entryid=319]
- indigodaddy 4y agoAnyone know a good tv documentary on the Titanic?
- zackees 4y ago
- netsharc 4y agoGeez, why can't the article use the proper term "the bridge" instead of/that it could explain as "the main control center of the ship". I remember reading that to be readable to the average American, the news is written in fifth grade level English. In this case, it shows.
- defrost 4y agoBy contrast the BBC reported: > The merchant vessel SS Mesaba was crossing the Atlantic in April 1912 and sent a wireless message to the Titanic but its warning never reached the bridge. and included the multibeam sidescan image. [BBC] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-63039737 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-63039737
- remote_phone 4y agoI wonder how long it will take to find the Malayan airlines plane
- meigwilym 4y agoIt's nice to see my local university on HN. Here's their article on the matter: https://www.bangor.ac.uk/news/09/finding-the-ship-that-sent-out-a-warning-to-the-titanic https://www.bangor.ac.uk/news/09/finding-the-ship-that-sent-...
- SailingSperm 4y agoA little Titanic factoid: The novella "Wreck of the Titan" written by Morgan Robertson and published as Futility in 1898, and revised as The Wreck of the Titan in 1912. It features a fictional British ocean liner Titan that sinks in the North Atlantic after striking an iceberg. The Titan and its sinking are famous for similarities to the passenger ship RMS Titanic and its sinking 14 years later. "Biggest ship in the world" title Written before the RMS Titanic was even conceptualized The fictional ship sank in April in the North Atlantic 400 miles far away from Newfoundland, and there were not enough lifeboats for all the passengers. (all same as Titanic) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wreck_of_the_Titan:_Or,_Futility#Similarities_to_the_Titanic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wreck_of_the_Titan:_Or,_Fu...