> Or a citation that the OP participated, which is unreasonable of you to ask? HN guidelines state we must assume people are telling the truth. Funny I didn't

> Or a citation that the OP participated, which is unreasonable of you to ask? HN guidelines state we must assume people are telling the truth. Funny I didn't get that assumption. Just pointing out the hypocrisy. Also, it isn't really "charity": they force people to worship their god by withholding their aid until they do so. There is a long history behind this. That's largely why they are despised. But seriously: if you believe 100% of the people on the internet, especially when they are enraged and trying to prove a point, I feel bad for you.