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I'm sure we all had different experiences with old school sysadmins. The ones I'm familiar with (early 90's, ISP industry) could do shell scripting and some per
by icedchai 4y ago
I'm sure we all had different experiences with old school sysadmins.
The ones I'm familiar with (early 90's, ISP industry) could do shell scripting and some perl. C was way out of their skill sets, except for a bit of copy-and-paste.
The people who wrote tools like terraform and ansible were engineers with system administration skills. Those are very rare.
- dijit 4y agoI’m biased. I worked in teams with such people basically my whole career. The pay increased, the titles and tools changed but the mentality didn’t. People just started beating their chest about devops and pooping on the legacy of sysadmins which is what most devops/SRE are. Sounds like they were automating though. “Cattle not pets” was a sysadmin mantra, but the business wanted pets most of the time.
- icedchai 4y agoThere was certainly some automation being done by the sysadmins I was familiar with (I did say "relatively little" in my original post, meaning compared to today!) It was definitely more pets than cattle at the places I was familiar with. These were small-ish companies, and the business didn't care as long as the systems worked.
- dijit 4y agoSounds like a “devops” in that same position would be doing the same then.