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So what? Is he actually right, or is he wrong? A good argument delivered badly is still a good argument.
by actually_a_dog 4y ago
So what? Is he actually right, or is he wrong? A good argument delivered badly is still a good argument.
- sdenton4 4y agoHe's a fool who hurls criticisms, gets repeatedly disproven, and doesn't actually execute on anything. It's obvious why le cun's words carry more weight; he and his labs get shit done; he speaks from experience, not sophistry. In other words, Gary Marcus has managed to match some linguistic sub-patterns between two articles, but has not proved he is intelligent.
- mrtranscendence 4y agoHe’s matched some “linguistic patterns” that seem to indicate that LeCun has adopted ideas for which people like you call Marcus a fool. I’m going to cut him some slack.
- sdenton4 4y agoJust giving back exactly the level of consideration he gives to ML as a field... Pattern matching isn't intelligence, after all.
- trrbb123 4y agoName one academic you look up to who never admits he is wrong.
- actually_a_dog 4y agoI'll be glad to do so after you explain how that's relevant any argument they may make.
- adamsmith143 4y ago>LeCun, 2022: Today's AI approaches will never lead to true intelligence (reported in the headline, not a verbatim quote); Marcus, 2018: “deep learning must be supplemented by other techniques if we are to reach artificial general intelligence.” If you think that is substantive evidence for a stolen idea then it's surely not possible for anyone to ever have an original thought.
- zimpenfish 4y ago> If you think that is substantive evidence for a stolen idea He says in the article that he doesn't think it's a stolen idea: "I won’t accuse LeCun of plagiarism, because I think he probably reached these conclusions honestly, after recognizing the failures of current architectures."