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I don't think anybody on /r/datahoarders believes it's possible for a private individual to archive the entirety of Youtube. More than 200,000 hours of video ar

I don't think anybody on /r/datahoarders believes it's possible for a private individual to archive the entirety of Youtube. More than 200,000 hours of video are uploaded every day. Generously assuming something like 1 GB/hour for 1080p, that's 200TB per day that you have to add. No home array can handle that.

orangepurple 4y ago
Don't worry, only a very small subset is worth keeping
- jasonladuke0311 4y ago
  That’s what you think now.
  - autoexec 4y ago
    Even now, the most garbage youtube video out there is still probably useful as training data for some AI (maybe even to generate horrible youtube videos)
  - WalterBright 4y ago
    So true. I look at photos I've taken in the past, and discovered that I took pictures of all the wrong things.
bee_rider 4y ago
This is a weird hackernews phenomenon where two sides of a discussion present the technical aspect of the thing they want to do, and are correct in their description of the technical aspects, without addressing the fact that they are talking about accomplishing totally unrelated objectives. It is probably possible to horde more Youtube videos than you could ever watch, probably including most of the ones that you might ever be interested in. And it is almost certainly impossible for any individual to capture every video which goes through Youtube. Neither of these seem to address the issue of whether there exist videos which will retrospectively have archival value which are not captured.
- autoexec 4y ago
  > Neither of these seem to address the issue of whether there exist videos which will retrospectively have archival value which are not captured. Unless the entirety of youtube can be archived it's safe to assume that there will be something of value which isn't being preserved. It's an unsolved problem and not one Google wants to see solved.
- MikePlacid 4y ago
  > probably including most of the ones that you might ever be interested in. That’s a really interesting question: how to determine videos that I might ever be interested in. > whether there exist videos which will retrospectively have archival value which are not captured. And that’s not really a question: there definitely exist videos that have a certain historical value which were deleted from YouTube, and most of them before I archived them cause I am lazy. I would gladly pay for a personal archive.org - a solution that automatically archives each page I visited and video I watched. I guess the required storage amount will be pretty affordable.
  - bee_rider 4y ago
    > > whether there exist videos which will retrospectively have archival value which are not captured. > And that’s not really a question: there definitely exist videos that have a certain historical value which were deleted from YouTube, and most of them before I archived them cause I am lazy. Sure, but you aren't the only one backing up YouTube videos. It seems at least plausible that the aggregate storage capacity of the entire data horder community and their propensity for backing up whatever they come across could result in a situation where if something is interesting, somebody ends up capturing it, right?
    - selfhoster11 4y ago
      There are some communities with a collaborative video index of who has what backed up.

orangepurple 4y ago

Don't worry, only a very small subset is worth keeping

jasonladuke0311 4y ago
That’s what you think now.
- autoexec 4y ago
  Even now, the most garbage youtube video out there is still probably useful as training data for some AI (maybe even to generate horrible youtube videos)
- WalterBright 4y ago
  So true. I look at photos I've taken in the past, and discovered that I took pictures of all the wrong things.

bee_rider 4y ago

This is a weird hackernews phenomenon where two sides of a discussion present the technical aspect of the thing they want to do, and are correct in their description of the technical aspects, without addressing the fact that they are talking about accomplishing totally unrelated objectives. It is probably possible to horde more Youtube videos than you could ever watch, probably including most of the ones that you might ever be interested in. And it is almost certainly impossible for any individual to capture every video which goes through Youtube. Neither of these seem to address the issue of whether there exist videos which will retrospectively have archival value which are not captured.

autoexec 4y ago
> Neither of these seem to address the issue of whether there exist videos which will retrospectively have archival value which are not captured. Unless the entirety of youtube can be archived it's safe to assume that there will be something of value which isn't being preserved. It's an unsolved problem and not one Google wants to see solved.
MikePlacid 4y ago
> probably including most of the ones that you might ever be interested in. That’s a really interesting question: how to determine videos that I might ever be interested in. > whether there exist videos which will retrospectively have archival value which are not captured. And that’s not really a question: there definitely exist videos that have a certain historical value which were deleted from YouTube, and most of them before I archived them cause I am lazy. I would gladly pay for a personal archive.org - a solution that automatically archives each page I visited and video I watched. I guess the required storage amount will be pretty affordable.
- bee_rider 4y ago
  > > whether there exist videos which will retrospectively have archival value which are not captured. > And that’s not really a question: there definitely exist videos that have a certain historical value which were deleted from YouTube, and most of them before I archived them cause I am lazy. Sure, but you aren't the only one backing up YouTube videos. It seems at least plausible that the aggregate storage capacity of the entire data horder community and their propensity for backing up whatever they come across could result in a situation where if something is interesting, somebody ends up capturing it, right?
  - selfhoster11 4y ago
    There are some communities with a collaborative video index of who has what backed up.