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Smart move to pool these things together to dominate HN etc for a week or so. A release every ~2 months or so feels bite size but combined you got a full feast.

by erwinh 4y ago

ren_engineer 4y ago
the opposite in my opinion, plenty of these are cool things that get overshadowed due to all the other stuff. Better to have a constant drip of stuff that keeps you on people's minds and gives you an excuse to talk about yourself. Plus you can then use new stuff to reference prior releases and products and you don't get threads like this where people feel like Cloudflare is spamming them
- paulgb 4y ago
  Tony Fadell's book, Build, has some interesting discussion of “launch events” and it persuaded me onto the idea that they are a good thing. Basically, he contrasts the launch culture of Apple (WWDC + a few other events throughout the year) with Google's (basically an uncoordinated shitshow).
- jrumbut 4y ago
  When you see the first post you think "you know, I've been meaning to get serious about a CDN for my assets and DDOS protection, I should take a look at Cloudflare." But since you can run your website without it, it's easy to put that on the back burner. But if you're reminded several times in a couple weeks maybe that pushes you over the threshold to activity. That said, sometimes when I see a company releasing several updates in a row I get nervous that they are pivoting or going to drown me in new features.
  - judge2020 4y ago
    For what it's worth, CF remains quite good even if you don't use something like Workers, Zaraz, etc. The only real thing that you should be looking at is replacing Page Rules with the newer systems[0-2], however, afaik there is no official deprecation nor sunset date for Page Rules. 0: https://blog.cloudflare.com/dynamic-redirect-rules/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/dynamic-redirect-rules/ 1: https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-cache-rules/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-cache-rules/ 2: https://blog.cloudflare.com/configuration-rules/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/configuration-rules/
costcofries 4y ago
I'm sure that's not their intent. What's notable though is how much innovation they are actually showing, that's rare imho.
dang 4y ago
Companies love to bundle their announcements together like this for some reason, though I wish they wouldn't. We end up downweighting the follow-ups because (a) too much repetition is uninteresting and (b) it leads to off-topic complaints like the OP. Note that (a) and (b) are directly related. I tell YC startups not to do this, though by the time YC startups get big enough to think corporate thoughts like "let's bundle our announcements together", they usually stop listening to us.

Smart move to pool these things together to dominate HN etc for a week or so. A release every ~2 months or so feels bite size but combined you got a full feast.

by erwinh 4y ago

Smart move to pool these things together to dominate HN etc for a week or so. A release every ~2 months or so feels bite size but combined you got a full feast.

ren_engineer 4y ago

the opposite in my opinion, plenty of these are cool things that get overshadowed due to all the other stuff. Better to have a constant drip of stuff that keeps you on people's minds and gives you an excuse to talk about yourself. Plus you can then use new stuff to reference prior releases and products and you don't get threads like this where people feel like Cloudflare is spamming them

paulgb 4y ago
Tony Fadell's book, Build, has some interesting discussion of “launch events” and it persuaded me onto the idea that they are a good thing. Basically, he contrasts the launch culture of Apple (WWDC + a few other events throughout the year) with Google's (basically an uncoordinated shitshow).
jrumbut 4y ago
When you see the first post you think "you know, I've been meaning to get serious about a CDN for my assets and DDOS protection, I should take a look at Cloudflare." But since you can run your website without it, it's easy to put that on the back burner. But if you're reminded several times in a couple weeks maybe that pushes you over the threshold to activity. That said, sometimes when I see a company releasing several updates in a row I get nervous that they are pivoting or going to drown me in new features.
- judge2020 4y ago
  For what it's worth, CF remains quite good even if you don't use something like Workers, Zaraz, etc. The only real thing that you should be looking at is replacing Page Rules with the newer systems[0-2], however, afaik there is no official deprecation nor sunset date for Page Rules. 0: https://blog.cloudflare.com/dynamic-redirect-rules/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/dynamic-redirect-rules/ 1: https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-cache-rules/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-cache-rules/ 2: https://blog.cloudflare.com/configuration-rules/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/configuration-rules/

costcofries 4y ago

I'm sure that's not their intent. What's notable though is how much innovation they are actually showing, that's rare imho.

dang 4y ago

Companies love to bundle their announcements together like this for some reason, though I wish they wouldn't. We end up downweighting the follow-ups because (a) too much repetition is uninteresting and (b) it leads to off-topic complaints like the OP. Note that (a) and (b) are directly related. I tell YC startups not to do this, though by the time YC startups get big enough to think corporate thoughts like "let's bundle our announcements together", they usually stop listening to us.