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> in view of modern biological and neurological knowledge How do we know that our mind is interpreting what this knowledge is in a coherent manner? The researc
by 3pt14159 4y ago
> in view of modern biological and neurological knowledge
How do we know that our mind is interpreting what this knowledge is in a coherent manner? The researchers themselves are already making a philosophical claim that truth is knowable to get to any meaningful conclusions about what can be learned about the mind. Note that I'm saying this assuming your premise is true, then using it to undermine your own claim so using this logic against me is not coherent.
> is not a particularly defensible position.
Defensibility is defined outside itself. For example: "Is the city defensible?" Is a reasonable question, but without defining the threat vector (comets, horsemen, etc) the statement on its own is meaningless.
So please understand that from your own vantage point this claim may seem indefensible, but you are again assuming the premise; and this is, essentially, the number one problem I see in modern thought.
Thinkers in our era have taken a leap of faith to defend rationality and science then proceed to deny that faith had anything to do with it, or, even worse in the case of Sam Harris, deride faith as "surely the devil's masterpiece" beating out ignorance, hatred, greed.
I find this especially rich in light of the damage that greed and hatred have done to the modern world built upon our technological societies. I'm not anti-technology, in fact I am pro-technology, but without the underpinnings that come with faith that is acknowledged and serviced, I believe we'll end up damaging the world more than we aid it over time.
- AnimalMuppet 4y agoLet me try this again. If you missed that I'm agreeing with you, then others probably did also. "Modern biological and neurological knowledge" (wording adopted from spicyusername's post) says that our minds evolved over mega-years, to be good enough fast enough to give us a survival edge. They didn't evolve to be pure logic engines, and they show that in all kinds of ways. Within that view, it is a contradiction to believe "ones own mind being a coherent arbiter of logical reasoning" (your wording). Within the current framework, you can't trust your mind to reach correct conclusions. I'm not assuming the premise. I'm pointing out that those who do put themselves in a contradictory position.
- 3pt14159 4y agoAhhh, I can read it that way now that you point out the other way of looking at it. Thanks for the followup and insights.