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I will wait for 2-3rd generation before buying it. I bought kindle early at $400 before it became a brick and I can just use my tablet/phone anyways. Remarkable

I will wait for 2-3rd generation before buying it. I bought kindle early at $400 before it became a brick and I can just use my tablet/phone anyways. Remarkable has failed me twice. I am on fence with e Ink tablets. Perhaps it’s not for me.

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
> Remarkable has failed me twice How so? I have a Remarkable 2 (pre-cloud subscription) and really like it. What happened for you?
- m463 4y ago
  I have a remarkable 2 and like it quite a bit. Only thing I don't like is swipe to turn page is not great.
criddell 4y ago
Both the Remarkable and the Scribe are only 10" devices. If you are going to read and markup PDFs, a 13" screen makes so much more sense because it's very close to letter/A4 size.
- radicaldreamer 4y ago
  Sony Digital Paper was such a product but very few outside of Academia and some Japanese business customers bought it.
  - criddell 4y ago
    Fujitsu Quaderno is one you can still get and is supposedly pretty good.
    - AlanYx 4y ago
      The current (gen 2) Quaderno A4 is really excellent and pretty inexpensive ordered from Amazon JP given current exchange rates.
      - B1FF_PSUVM 4y ago
        I tried to look it up - https://www.amazon.co.jp/s?k=fujitsu+quaderno+a4 https://www.amazon.co.jp/s?k=fujitsu+quaderno+a4 - and only the smaller A5 seems to be available
        AlanYx 4y ago
        The A4 goes in and out of stock. It’s a popular product in Japan and it seems like demand is higher than supply.
        radicaldreamer 4y ago
        The retail channel is probably constrained as this seems mostly marketed toward businesses which might purchase along with a support contract. The retail market for these devices seems strictly supplementary to the main market (at least for Japanese brands).
        fomine3 4y ago
        Some say Papyr is same device as Quaderno (and Sony's one), let's check out
        AlanYx 4y ago
        Papyr is based on the same hardware as the Quaderno Gen 1. The hardware platform is licensed from a company called Linfiny. It's been rumored for a while that Quirklogic will release a Papyr based on the Gen 2 hardware, but it hasn't materialized yet. The Gen 2 hardware is worth it if you're doing a lot of handwriting because the Wacom digitizer is way, way better, but Papyr does have some additional software that could tip the scales in its direction.
  - francogt 4y ago
    I’ve had one for many years and found it to be the perfect device to read and take notes on PDFs: 13” screen, super lightweight, easy to send PDFs to it and from it through the app and writing on it feels similar to writing on paper. Unfortunately the pen’s tip broke off and there doesn’t seem to be any way to fix it or buy new ones. It is mostly useless without it.
    - criddell 4y ago
      Is it not this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1288294-REG/sony_dpta_rf1_replacement_tips_for_dpta_rs1.html https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1288294-REG/sony_dpta...
      - francogt 4y ago
        Those are replacement tips. I broke the head, leaving the shaft inside the pen and thats what I'm not able to get out. It seems to be a common problem if you look at the reviews: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0713VCDPY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0713VCDPY
        criddell 4y ago
        You can buy them from Amazon Japan (and they will ship to the US): https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Sony-DPTA-RS1-Stylus-Pen-Cores/dp/B07JYMTDVB https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Sony-DPTA-RS1-Stylus-Pen-Cores...
    - SZJX 4y ago
      You can buy a new pen. At least I was able to when I broke it in 2017. Maybe the stock has run out now? Alternatively there are various posts online on how one might take it out, e.g. https://lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/15994/how-to-remove-the-broken-part-of-the-tip-inside-of-the-stylus-of-sony-digital-pa https://lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/15994/how-to-r...
- meltyness 4y ago
  remarkable has very capable software, as such the "microfaiche / pinch-to-zoom" style operation is pretty effective. It can compensate somewhat without too much hassle for reading and annotating double-column works without eye strain.
rvz 4y ago
> I will wait for 2-3rd generation before buying it. Smart strategy. I waited for the reMarkable 2 to get better, but it just gotten worse and all it offered was an under powered and non-upgradeable and laughable 8GB of maximum storage + a cloud storage subscription for more storage. The Kindle Scribe already starts with 16GB and is cheaper than the reMarkable 2 with the equivalent accessories coming with it. I guess the one that can actually deliver a proper e-ink tablet that just works, it would be unsurprisingly Amazon, hence why it is already an immediate best seller. I'll wait until whoever releases a color E-ink tablet, something that the reMarkable 2 has failed to deliver on, despite some early competitors already selling them but support and features from them isn't going to be as good as Amazon's.
- drewzero1 4y ago
  I've been looking into the Boox Nova Air C, which seems like a pretty promising color e-ink tablet, depending on your screen size requirements (7.8"). It runs Android though which may be a good or bad thing depending on one's needs.

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago

> Remarkable has failed me twice How so? I have a Remarkable 2 (pre-cloud subscription) and really like it. What happened for you?

m463 4y ago
I have a remarkable 2 and like it quite a bit. Only thing I don't like is swipe to turn page is not great.

criddell 4y ago

Both the Remarkable and the Scribe are only 10" devices. If you are going to read and markup PDFs, a 13" screen makes so much more sense because it's very close to letter/A4 size.

radicaldreamer 4y ago
Sony Digital Paper was such a product but very few outside of Academia and some Japanese business customers bought it.
- criddell 4y ago
  Fujitsu Quaderno is one you can still get and is supposedly pretty good.
  - AlanYx 4y ago
    The current (gen 2) Quaderno A4 is really excellent and pretty inexpensive ordered from Amazon JP given current exchange rates.
    - B1FF_PSUVM 4y ago
      I tried to look it up - https://www.amazon.co.jp/s?k=fujitsu+quaderno+a4 https://www.amazon.co.jp/s?k=fujitsu+quaderno+a4 - and only the smaller A5 seems to be available
      - AlanYx 4y ago
        The A4 goes in and out of stock. It’s a popular product in Japan and it seems like demand is higher than supply.
        radicaldreamer 4y ago
        The retail channel is probably constrained as this seems mostly marketed toward businesses which might purchase along with a support contract. The retail market for these devices seems strictly supplementary to the main market (at least for Japanese brands).
      - fomine3 4y ago
        Some say Papyr is same device as Quaderno (and Sony's one), let's check out
        AlanYx 4y ago
        Papyr is based on the same hardware as the Quaderno Gen 1. The hardware platform is licensed from a company called Linfiny. It's been rumored for a while that Quirklogic will release a Papyr based on the Gen 2 hardware, but it hasn't materialized yet. The Gen 2 hardware is worth it if you're doing a lot of handwriting because the Wacom digitizer is way, way better, but Papyr does have some additional software that could tip the scales in its direction.
- francogt 4y ago
  I’ve had one for many years and found it to be the perfect device to read and take notes on PDFs: 13” screen, super lightweight, easy to send PDFs to it and from it through the app and writing on it feels similar to writing on paper. Unfortunately the pen’s tip broke off and there doesn’t seem to be any way to fix it or buy new ones. It is mostly useless without it.
  - criddell 4y ago
    Is it not this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1288294-REG/sony_dpta_rf1_replacement_tips_for_dpta_rs1.html https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1288294-REG/sony_dpta...
    - francogt 4y ago
      Those are replacement tips. I broke the head, leaving the shaft inside the pen and thats what I'm not able to get out. It seems to be a common problem if you look at the reviews: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0713VCDPY https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0713VCDPY
      - criddell 4y ago
        You can buy them from Amazon Japan (and they will ship to the US): https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Sony-DPTA-RS1-Stylus-Pen-Cores/dp/B07JYMTDVB https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Sony-DPTA-RS1-Stylus-Pen-Cores...
  - SZJX 4y ago
    You can buy a new pen. At least I was able to when I broke it in 2017. Maybe the stock has run out now? Alternatively there are various posts online on how one might take it out, e.g. https://lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/15994/how-to-remove-the-broken-part-of-the-tip-inside-of-the-stylus-of-sony-digital-pa https://lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/15994/how-to-r...
meltyness 4y ago
remarkable has very capable software, as such the "microfaiche / pinch-to-zoom" style operation is pretty effective. It can compensate somewhat without too much hassle for reading and annotating double-column works without eye strain.

rvz 4y ago

> I will wait for 2-3rd generation before buying it. Smart strategy. I waited for the reMarkable 2 to get better, but it just gotten worse and all it offered was an under powered and non-upgradeable and laughable 8GB of maximum storage + a cloud storage subscription for more storage. The Kindle Scribe already starts with 16GB and is cheaper than the reMarkable 2 with the equivalent accessories coming with it. I guess the one that can actually deliver a proper e-ink tablet that just works, it would be unsurprisingly Amazon, hence why it is already an immediate best seller. I'll wait until whoever releases a color E-ink tablet, something that the reMarkable 2 has failed to deliver on, despite some early competitors already selling them but support and features from them isn't going to be as good as Amazon's.

drewzero1 4y ago
I've been looking into the Boox Nova Air C, which seems like a pretty promising color e-ink tablet, depending on your screen size requirements (7.8"). It runs Android though which may be a good or bad thing depending on one's needs.