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I think some of this is due to the presence (until just recently) of abundant VC money, encouraging tech companies to trade of money for time by outsourcing the

I think some of this is due to the presence (until just recently) of abundant VC money, encouraging tech companies to trade of money for time by outsourcing their server admin (or part of it, anyway). It's one less thing you have to hire for and spend time getting good corporate policies and procedures on. But, now that the emphasis seems to have shifted from growth-at-all-costs to where-can-we-cut-costs, I think there may be more organizations with a large enough server load to realize that they can do it cheaper (or even just get a different cloud provider to do it cheaper).

dkarl 4y ago
It would be shocking if, in the long term, there were not cloud providers with lower prices than any but the biggest companies could achieve by themselves. AWS will have to work hard to keep giving customers a reason to pay the premium.
- nithril 4y ago
  Still waiting for OVH or Scaleway to be really multi AZ (>2) with a network that cannot be cut by anyone...
P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
imo this is the right takeaway. You see a lot of posters commenting that it isn't obvious that it's more expensive, but that's a large part of why I said I'm flabbergasted at how many people don't find it obvious. It is obvious, someone may still choose to pay it because there's a natural tradeoff, but it's absolutely obvious. I suspect most developers don't find it obvious because they've never dealt with actual servers themselves. It's akin to arguing changing the oil on your vehicle is more expensive than paying someone to do it. No, it's more convenient, and that may make it worth the price.
- elcomet 4y ago
  Again, you seem to not take into account the developer/admin time. In your example with oil, if you track your time, it's gonna be certainly more expensive than going to the garage. And also of course, it allows you to go faster, which can have a huge value

dkarl 4y ago

It would be shocking if, in the long term, there were not cloud providers with lower prices than any but the biggest companies could achieve by themselves. AWS will have to work hard to keep giving customers a reason to pay the premium.

nithril 4y ago
Still waiting for OVH or Scaleway to be really multi AZ (>2) with a network that cannot be cut by anyone...

P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago

imo this is the right takeaway. You see a lot of posters commenting that it isn't obvious that it's more expensive, but that's a large part of why I said I'm flabbergasted at how many people don't find it obvious. It is obvious, someone may still choose to pay it because there's a natural tradeoff, but it's absolutely obvious. I suspect most developers don't find it obvious because they've never dealt with actual servers themselves. It's akin to arguing changing the oil on your vehicle is more expensive than paying someone to do it. No, it's more convenient, and that may make it worth the price.

elcomet 4y ago
Again, you seem to not take into account the developer/admin time. In your example with oil, if you track your time, it's gonna be certainly more expensive than going to the garage. And also of course, it allows you to go faster, which can have a huge value