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No, I don't want to argue that. Disruption from covid not a bad assumption: The vaccines use small fragments of the virus, after all, so the virus contains ever

by Arnt 4y ago

No, I don't want to argue that. Disruption from covid not a bad assumption: The vaccines use small fragments of the virus, after all, so the virus contains every fragment used in a vaccine. But I wouldn't argue it. I also wouldn't argue that it does NOT cause any disruption. If one of those fragments cause menstrual disruption, it's a bit of a stretch to assume that the rest of the virus undoes whatever the fragment does. Not something I'd want to argue and not something one should silently imply.

iinnPP 4y ago
I don't believe the MRNA vaccines work as you state. The study picked people using 9 different vaccines though so presumably at least one of them is as you state.
vaxxfan 4y ago
2 years in and you don't know how the COVID vaccines work. You want to talk about crimes? I can just laugh.
peteradio 4y ago
The virus does not get injected into your muscle... Generally you get it through mouth or nose, its a totally different receiver mechanism.
origin_path 4y ago
I understand why you think that, and it's true enough for most classical vaccines. But, the mRNA vaccines are different in at least five ways from the actual virus: 1. The spike protein it creates is structurally slightly different; they edited its structure to stop it collapsing in the absence of the rest of the virus. 2. The mRNA that codes for the spike is 'optimized' in ways nature either can't or won't do. In theory the optimized versions and viral versions are equivalent except for potency. 3. The mRNA is obfuscated to hide it from the immune system, which would otherwise immediately destroy it as being too dangerous to allow. This involves pseudouridine substitutions. It's a part of what makes the tech experimental. 4. The mRNA is protected by "lipid nanoparticles". This tech is totally different to what the virus does, and has caused unexpected toxicity problems in the past. In fact it's why mRNA based drugs never launched and why the COVID vaccines were the first outing for the tech despite it being under development for many years. They thought the toxicity wouldn't matter because the nanoparticles only become problematic on repeat dosings which, as everyone knows, vaccines don't require (doh). 5. The vaccine enters the body via a very different pathway, one which is far more likely to result in accidental injection straight into the bloodstream. For normal viral replication it often gets stuck in the nose, mouth, throat or lungs and can't reach e.g. the heart or the reproductive organs.

by Arnt 4y ago

iinnPP 4y ago

I don't believe the MRNA vaccines work as you state. The study picked people using 9 different vaccines though so presumably at least one of them is as you state.

vaxxfan 4y ago

2 years in and you don't know how the COVID vaccines work. You want to talk about crimes? I can just laugh.

peteradio 4y ago

The virus does not get injected into your muscle... Generally you get it through mouth or nose, its a totally different receiver mechanism.

origin_path 4y ago

I understand why you think that, and it's true enough for most classical vaccines. But, the mRNA vaccines are different in at least five ways from the actual virus: 1. The spike protein it creates is structurally slightly different; they edited its structure to stop it collapsing in the absence of the rest of the virus. 2. The mRNA that codes for the spike is 'optimized' in ways nature either can't or won't do. In theory the optimized versions and viral versions are equivalent except for potency. 3. The mRNA is obfuscated to hide it from the immune system, which would otherwise immediately destroy it as being too dangerous to allow. This involves pseudouridine substitutions. It's a part of what makes the tech experimental. 4. The mRNA is protected by "lipid nanoparticles". This tech is totally different to what the virus does, and has caused unexpected toxicity problems in the past. In fact it's why mRNA based drugs never launched and why the COVID vaccines were the first outing for the tech despite it being under development for many years. They thought the toxicity wouldn't matter because the nanoparticles only become problematic on repeat dosings which, as everyone knows, vaccines don't require (doh). 5. The vaccine enters the body via a very different pathway, one which is far more likely to result in accidental injection straight into the bloodstream. For normal viral replication it often gets stuck in the nose, mouth, throat or lungs and can't reach e.g. the heart or the reproductive organs.