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I know it's 18 years old game by now, but in my mind it's the first wave of "next gen" games (normal maps, unified lighting, etc..) so it's still kind of amazin

I know it's 18 years old game by now, but in my mind it's the first wave of "next gen" games (normal maps, unified lighting, etc..) so it's still kind of amazing seeing this running at 60fps on a paltry laptop (razer blade stealth) and on linux in a browser at that! edit: scratch that, thing runs even on phone at 60fps

epakai 4y ago
Yeah doesn't take much these days. I played with dhewm on a surface go, and performance was amazing for a dinky 6W cpu even with the high dpi display.
EugeneOZ 4y ago
Well, on MBP M1 (Ventura) it drops from 63 to 15 sometimes (levels loading?).
erwinh 4y ago
seems not that long ago "can it run doom" was the benchmark, now we are already up to doom 3.
- rcarmo 4y ago
  Still waiting for Crysis.
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finikytou 4y ago
doom3 is a masterpiece of gaming. it represented a radical shift in how 3d was used in games, hardware shift, light shift in terms of how to light and reflect light in an environment. in terms of game design this is the pinnacle of the genre. it is to this day my favorite FPS by far. beautiful talk by carmack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1q49GxsPWM&t=4s&ab_channel=rebelidSoftware https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1q49GxsPWM&t=4s&ab_channel=...
- flohofwoe 4y ago
  I don't know... it's definitely a masterpiece of rendering technology, but IMHO not as a game. Compared to classic Doom or the Quake games, it took too long until the action started, and everything felt so slow and sticky! It was the first Id game I couldn't really get into, and the first I didn't play to the end.
  - cpuguy83 4y ago
    This was the first (only?) game that legit had me jumpy. I remember one part of the game where I was in this room and a monster walked across the window, saw me, then came around and started pounding on the door. Each time the door dented a bit more until it gave out. I don't think I saw a game before Doom3 that was quite like that.
    - flohofwoe 4y ago
      The classic Alien vs Predator (I think?) had me literally falling out of the chair when a facehugger jumped at me :)
      - cptnapalm 4y ago
        Only game I ever played where I remained unmoving in one corner for half an hour and was not bored.
        wmanley 4y ago
        Something I loved about that game was that stopping didn't make you safe - if you stopped for too long the aliens would come and find you. This lead to a intense experience where you had to keep going - even when terrified - because stopping was even scarier.
      - jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago
        During the LAN party era my friends and I played the crap out of that series. The engine wasn't as sophisticated as what iD et all were doing, but worked perfectly fine for the gameplay. We'd spend hours trying to one up each other in deathmatch. Another gem of a game I think a lot of people overlooked that has some similarities is Natural Selection 2. This is a sort of aliens vs space marines FPS and RTS hybrid. It never really blew up but still has a community.
tomxor 4y ago
> I know it's 18 years old game by now, but in my mind it's the first wave of "next gen" games Oh man that makes me feel old. I remember first playing this on my tiny 12" powerbook from 2004... and back then It felt like a heavy weight that shouldn't quite be running on that machine.
- lostgame 4y ago
  Oh, God - I, too; experienced DOOM 3 for the first time on a PowerPC Mac...not exactly a pleasant experience. I was an early adopter of the first Intel MacBook; and let me tell you - the difference (once we had a Universal Binary) was like riding a horse vs. driving a car. Other than Final Cut Express and Logic Express performance, I found DOOM 3 to be one of the first major signs that Intel was meant to be and here to stay.
spullara 4y ago
Depending on if you are talking about a recent iPhone, it may be faster than the laptop.

epakai 4y ago

Yeah doesn't take much these days. I played with dhewm on a surface go, and performance was amazing for a dinky 6W cpu even with the high dpi display.

EugeneOZ 4y ago

Well, on MBP M1 (Ventura) it drops from 63 to 15 sometimes (levels loading?).

erwinh 4y ago

seems not that long ago "can it run doom" was the benchmark, now we are already up to doom 3.

rcarmo 4y ago
Still waiting for Crysis.
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finikytou 4y ago

doom3 is a masterpiece of gaming. it represented a radical shift in how 3d was used in games, hardware shift, light shift in terms of how to light and reflect light in an environment. in terms of game design this is the pinnacle of the genre. it is to this day my favorite FPS by far. beautiful talk by carmack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1q49GxsPWM&t=4s&ab_channel=rebelidSoftware https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1q49GxsPWM&t=4s&ab_channel=...

flohofwoe 4y ago
I don't know... it's definitely a masterpiece of rendering technology, but IMHO not as a game. Compared to classic Doom or the Quake games, it took too long until the action started, and everything felt so slow and sticky! It was the first Id game I couldn't really get into, and the first I didn't play to the end.
- cpuguy83 4y ago
  This was the first (only?) game that legit had me jumpy. I remember one part of the game where I was in this room and a monster walked across the window, saw me, then came around and started pounding on the door. Each time the door dented a bit more until it gave out. I don't think I saw a game before Doom3 that was quite like that.
  - flohofwoe 4y ago
    The classic Alien vs Predator (I think?) had me literally falling out of the chair when a facehugger jumped at me :)
    - cptnapalm 4y ago
      Only game I ever played where I remained unmoving in one corner for half an hour and was not bored.
      - wmanley 4y ago
        Something I loved about that game was that stopping didn't make you safe - if you stopped for too long the aliens would come and find you. This lead to a intense experience where you had to keep going - even when terrified - because stopping was even scarier.
    - jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago
      During the LAN party era my friends and I played the crap out of that series. The engine wasn't as sophisticated as what iD et all were doing, but worked perfectly fine for the gameplay. We'd spend hours trying to one up each other in deathmatch. Another gem of a game I think a lot of people overlooked that has some similarities is Natural Selection 2. This is a sort of aliens vs space marines FPS and RTS hybrid. It never really blew up but still has a community.

tomxor 4y ago

> I know it's 18 years old game by now, but in my mind it's the first wave of "next gen" games Oh man that makes me feel old. I remember first playing this on my tiny 12" powerbook from 2004... and back then It felt like a heavy weight that shouldn't quite be running on that machine.

lostgame 4y ago
Oh, God - I, too; experienced DOOM 3 for the first time on a PowerPC Mac...not exactly a pleasant experience. I was an early adopter of the first Intel MacBook; and let me tell you - the difference (once we had a Universal Binary) was like riding a horse vs. driving a car. Other than Final Cut Express and Logic Express performance, I found DOOM 3 to be one of the first major signs that Intel was meant to be and here to stay.

spullara 4y ago

Depending on if you are talking about a recent iPhone, it may be faster than the laptop.