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I like this thread. A bunch of possibly above average intelligent people going all in on discussing why and how such an attack was done. Very entertaining to re

by WHA8m 4y ago

I like this thread. A bunch of possibly above average intelligent people going all in on discussing why and how such an attack was done. Very entertaining to read. What struck me, was that a few of you seriously think about the US as a contender for this attack. Does anyone has an recent example of the US being that hostile to friend nations?

diimdeep 4y ago
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2004/02/27/reagan-approved-plan-to-sabotage-soviets/a9184eff-47fd-402e-beb2-63970851e130/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2004/02/27/r...
- WHA8m 4y ago
  > Reagan I don't consider this 'recent'. What came to mind in the meantime is the "spying on friends" that was published by Snowden. But there wasn't some physical damage done which I think marks a different boundary.
apexalpha 4y ago
>What struck me, was that a few of you think about the US as a serious contender for this attack. Does anyone has an recent example of the US being that hostile to friend nations? This narative was a little too quick, too widespread and too concise if you ask me. A lot of new-ish accounts quickly posted this version on all different English social media but I've yet to see it on Dutch, Belgian or French social media. It reeks if you ask me.
- dang 4y ago
  "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
BurningPenguin 4y ago
I wouldn't say i'm intelligent. :D But i think this "US did it" theory doesn't make any sense. The only party that has interest in a broken pipeline is Russia. Why? Because it would release them from their obligation to deliver. There is an "act of god" clause in the contract. They know we won't accept any further delivery from them anyway. The sanctions won't go away anytime soon, and i think they may be planning for a full scale war in Ukraine.
marcusverus 4y ago
Does anybody have a recent example of Russia destroying their own assets to the detriment of their strategic position?

by WHA8m 4y ago

diimdeep 4y ago

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2004/02/27/reagan-approved-plan-to-sabotage-soviets/a9184eff-47fd-402e-beb2-63970851e130/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2004/02/27/r...

WHA8m 4y ago
> Reagan I don't consider this 'recent'. What came to mind in the meantime is the "spying on friends" that was published by Snowden. But there wasn't some physical damage done which I think marks a different boundary.

apexalpha 4y ago

>What struck me, was that a few of you think about the US as a serious contender for this attack. Does anyone has an recent example of the US being that hostile to friend nations? This narative was a little too quick, too widespread and too concise if you ask me. A lot of new-ish accounts quickly posted this version on all different English social media but I've yet to see it on Dutch, Belgian or French social media. It reeks if you ask me.

dang 4y ago
"Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

BurningPenguin 4y ago

I wouldn't say i'm intelligent. :D But i think this "US did it" theory doesn't make any sense. The only party that has interest in a broken pipeline is Russia. Why? Because it would release them from their obligation to deliver. There is an "act of god" clause in the contract. They know we won't accept any further delivery from them anyway. The sanctions won't go away anytime soon, and i think they may be planning for a full scale war in Ukraine.

marcusverus 4y ago

Does anybody have a recent example of Russia destroying their own assets to the detriment of their strategic position?