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It didn’t came out of the LHC project. (The LHC project was approved in 1994. There had been a decade of planning but that had nothing to do with the creation o

by kgwgk 4y ago

It didn’t came out of the LHC project. (The LHC project was approved in 1994. There had been a decade of planning but that had nothing to do with the creation of the web.)

cma 4y ago
Opps yeah, was mixing it up with CERN in general. All the work on WWW and earlier hypertext there wasn't just for early LHC planning stuff but it has been a noted thing: > Should China build the Great Collider? > Stephen Hawking and Gordon Kane 2018 > [...] > This has shown up in the past from the LHC in a number of well documented areas, including inventing the World Wide Web with its huge impact on economies world-wide and then grid computing. Someone said imagine that CERN (where the World Wide Web was invented for particle physics) had one penny for each use, then particle physics would have all the funding it could use. More industries include magnet technology and superconducting wire technology, a multi-billion dollar accelerator industry, a multi-billion dollar imaging industry that owes its existence to the development of particle physics detectors, other billion dollar industries, and many tangible benefits. Such technologies generate revenues far exceeding the investment for collider construction. > Arguably the third industrial revolution was triggered by the invention of the World Wide Web at CERN. The requirements for data acquisition and storage and access, and the materials and technologies needed for CEPC and SPPC could help lead to the fourth industrial revolution. For the first decades of the third industrial revolution High Energy Physics led, and only in recent years industry has overtaken HEP. History may repeat itself for the fourth. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.00682.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.00682.pdf
- kgwgk 4y ago
  That someone has written that before doesn't make it true. The "World Wide Web" was invented at CERN but that happened in the LEP era. LHC has absolutely nothing to do with it. Not everything is the same in the context of this discussion: one may think that LEP was good, and even that LHC was good when it was approved, built and put in place and also think that it's a waste of resources now.
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by kgwgk 4y ago

It didn’t came out of the LHC project. (The LHC project was approved in 1994. There had been a decade of planning but that had nothing to do with the creation of the web.)

cma 4y ago

Opps yeah, was mixing it up with CERN in general. All the work on WWW and earlier hypertext there wasn't just for early LHC planning stuff but it has been a noted thing: > Should China build the Great Collider? > Stephen Hawking and Gordon Kane 2018 > [...] > This has shown up in the past from the LHC in a number of well documented areas, including inventing the World Wide Web with its huge impact on economies world-wide and then grid computing. Someone said imagine that CERN (where the World Wide Web was invented for particle physics) had one penny for each use, then particle physics would have all the funding it could use. More industries include magnet technology and superconducting wire technology, a multi-billion dollar accelerator industry, a multi-billion dollar imaging industry that owes its existence to the development of particle physics detectors, other billion dollar industries, and many tangible benefits. Such technologies generate revenues far exceeding the investment for collider construction. > Arguably the third industrial revolution was triggered by the invention of the World Wide Web at CERN. The requirements for data acquisition and storage and access, and the materials and technologies needed for CEPC and SPPC could help lead to the fourth industrial revolution. For the first decades of the third industrial revolution High Energy Physics led, and only in recent years industry has overtaken HEP. History may repeat itself for the fourth. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.00682.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.00682.pdf

kgwgk 4y ago
That someone has written that before doesn't make it true. The "World Wide Web" was invented at CERN but that happened in the LEP era. LHC has absolutely nothing to do with it. Not everything is the same in the context of this discussion: one may think that LEP was good, and even that LHC was good when it was approved, built and put in place and also think that it's a waste of resources now.
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