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Where’s “state” usually means the church, with state’s approval.
by trasz 4y ago
Where’s “state” usually means the church, with state’s approval.
- dang 4y agoWe've asked you more than once not to use HN for religious flamewar. If you keep doing it (and you've done it repeatedly in this thread already), we are going to have to ban you. No more of this, please. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279647 https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- trasz 4y agoThis is not flamewar. It’s not even a controversial statement. The word you are looking for is “political correctness”. I have no problem with plural “you” prohibiting easily verifiable, but politically incorrect facts, but let’s not pretend it’s something else - have some guts and explicitly write it down in site rules instead of (repeatedly) pushing bullshit like this.
- dang 4y agoI don't care about the individual comment, I care about the pattern. Given that your account has had such a clear pattern of posting religious flamewar comments* that we've had to warn you multiple times in the past, and given that you were resuming that pattern several times in the current thread, it seems natural to let you know that we need you to stop posting like this and if you don't we will ban you. Re "facts": people repeat their favorite "facts" all the time to bludgeon the enemy side in whatever internet battle they're prosecuting, so the but-it's-a-fact defense doesn't hold much water. It's a red herring, which is why it's the most beloved response of trolls. There are infinitely many facts, and the choice of which ones to make explicit is always done by a person with a point of view. If you or anyone wants more explanation about this, I've posted about it many times: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20infinitely%20many%20facts&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu.... If you want to have repetitive internet wars on grand rhetorical subjects, please do it someplace else. We're trying to optimize for curiosity here. * or whatever you want to call denunciatory generic rhetoric about religion that leads other users to respond in kind and produce dumbed-down, nasty, repetitive threads
- trasz 4y ago>We're trying to optimize for curiosity here. No, you aren't. That's the point: you pretend this is the case, but you only allow certain kinds of curiosity - ones that are politically safe.
- pjc50 4y agoThis has been dismissed as "flamebait", but is an accurate description of what happened in the Magdalene Laundries of Ireland. Including the mass grave of children at Tuam: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/03/mass-grave-of-babies-and-children-found-at-tuam-orphanage-in-ireland https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/03/mass-grave-of-...
- aa-jv 4y agoIn Australias case this is absolutely what happened - and you should not be down-voted for pointing it out. It is the truth - not flamebait - Australia's government conspired with religious organizations to execute its racial purity programs. Fact.
- Guthur 4y agoSo the state? Again you are conflating to diminish how responsible state bureaucracies actually are.