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For the last month or so I was thinking it would be awesome to have a desktop with a lot of the most common GUI utilities written in python so that average prog

by ohiovr 4y ago

For the last month or so I was thinking it would be awesome to have a desktop with a lot of the most common GUI utilities written in python so that average programmers could have a stab at customizing it for their needs. But this is too much work for me and I'm kind of following a different dream right now.

sprak 4y ago
An easy modified Desktop Environment written in Python was one of the goals of the "One Laptop per Child" project. They succeeded[1], it's now separate from the hardware and can run on anything from your phone, raspberry pi, regular computer and the OLPC-machines. (Another goal was better sandboxing bitween apps. Their project was called Bitfrost and was in many ways the first step towards flatpak that we use today) [1]: https://www.sugarlabs.org/ https://www.sugarlabs.org/
mhd 4y ago
I think a few of us thought about that. It seems the "Hello" System[1] wants to got that way. Write most applications in PyQt, have the source somewhat accesible (I would think a direct menu item or button in the "About" dialog would improve on the UX of that, though) Not sure whether I'd personally go with PyQt. (Or a post-1.x Python feature set in general). What would be neat is some kind of "My first Github" social coding platform, where you could push your homegrown new features, discuss & share them. [1]: https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/user/components/applications.html https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/user/components/applicati...
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kristopolous 4y ago
Nobody seriously goes into things intentionally making them obtuse. The current complexity is a product of poor design from a sincere effort for simplicity. Trying to be easy, lightweight, simple, is the silver bullet way to create a mess and it's why when you see those words in software names it's always just a sprawling stochastic tangle. The easiest way to avoid the mess is to make things dumb.

by ohiovr 4y ago

sprak 4y ago

An easy modified Desktop Environment written in Python was one of the goals of the "One Laptop per Child" project. They succeeded[1], it's now separate from the hardware and can run on anything from your phone, raspberry pi, regular computer and the OLPC-machines. (Another goal was better sandboxing bitween apps. Their project was called Bitfrost and was in many ways the first step towards flatpak that we use today) [1]: https://www.sugarlabs.org/ https://www.sugarlabs.org/

mhd 4y ago

I think a few of us thought about that. It seems the "Hello" System[1] wants to got that way. Write most applications in PyQt, have the source somewhat accesible (I would think a direct menu item or button in the "About" dialog would improve on the UX of that, though) Not sure whether I'd personally go with PyQt. (Or a post-1.x Python feature set in general). What would be neat is some kind of "My first Github" social coding platform, where you could push your homegrown new features, discuss & share them. [1]: https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/user/components/applications.html https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/user/components/applicati...

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kristopolous 4y ago

Nobody seriously goes into things intentionally making them obtuse. The current complexity is a product of poor design from a sincere effort for simplicity. Trying to be easy, lightweight, simple, is the silver bullet way to create a mess and it's why when you see those words in software names it's always just a sprawling stochastic tangle. The easiest way to avoid the mess is to make things dumb.