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It's invasive and takes up valuable screen real estate. On top of that, it's very distracting to keep having an element bounce into view. I have a very hide tim

It's invasive and takes up valuable screen real estate. On top of that, it's very distracting to keep having an element bounce into view. I have a very hide time dealing with even minor distractions on my screen, personally. I straight up permanently remove most sticky headers with Ublock Origin. 90% of the sites I read content on, I didnt get there by internal site navigation, I got there from a kagi search or HN link. The rare exception are documentation sites; I use their internal navigation often. Thankfully, though, very few of these sites use sticky headers. I just quickly scroll to the top or use the pagination buttons at the bottom.

sethherr 4y ago
I mostly spend time on sites that I use multiple times a day. I prefer that those sites are designed for people who use them multiple times a day, not for people who visit once, from HN. This might be targeting a minority of users - it’s design for power users. I’d expect HN to be supportive of this sort of design.
- omgmajk 4y ago
  Why would HN be supportive of this toxic attitude towards users?
- 2malaq 4y ago
  > This might be targeting a minority of users - it’s design for power users. I’d expect HN to be supportive of this sort of design. You'd expect.. But please listen.
- klibertp 4y ago
  What's wrong with a small ▾ icon you could tap to bring up the menu? Then tap again to hide it? Crucially, without changing what content's scrollTop with either action? I'd expect (haha) power-users to be capable of tapping on an indicator to bring up (or down) the menu...
- unionpivo 4y ago
  If I am on my pc with a mouse getting to top is either a click or button combo away, so this popping up stuff is a net loss. Its even worse on the phones where you sometimes get header plus some commercial and maybe a cookie banner, interacting with each other trying to figure out how to close them in order is a puzzle. There have been maybe 1 or 2 sites out of all that i have visited, that I didn't immediately hate the banner. To me it become a "site smell". So if I have an option I'll go elsewhere for my needs.
- birksherty 4y ago
  Nobody likes it except developers of these annoyances themselves. It's not power, it's toxic annoying dickbar.

sethherr 4y ago

I mostly spend time on sites that I use multiple times a day. I prefer that those sites are designed for people who use them multiple times a day, not for people who visit once, from HN. This might be targeting a minority of users - it’s design for power users. I’d expect HN to be supportive of this sort of design.

omgmajk 4y ago
Why would HN be supportive of this toxic attitude towards users?
2malaq 4y ago
> This might be targeting a minority of users - it’s design for power users. I’d expect HN to be supportive of this sort of design. You'd expect.. But please listen.
klibertp 4y ago
What's wrong with a small ▾ icon you could tap to bring up the menu? Then tap again to hide it? Crucially, without changing what content's scrollTop with either action? I'd expect (haha) power-users to be capable of tapping on an indicator to bring up (or down) the menu...
unionpivo 4y ago
If I am on my pc with a mouse getting to top is either a click or button combo away, so this popping up stuff is a net loss. Its even worse on the phones where you sometimes get header plus some commercial and maybe a cookie banner, interacting with each other trying to figure out how to close them in order is a puzzle. There have been maybe 1 or 2 sites out of all that i have visited, that I didn't immediately hate the banner. To me it become a "site smell". So if I have an option I'll go elsewhere for my needs.
birksherty 4y ago
Nobody likes it except developers of these annoyances themselves. It's not power, it's toxic annoying dickbar.