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What makes you so sure all of these actions don't have the opposite effect? Let's say hypothetically Putin completely ceases in Ukraine and then loses the next

What makes you so sure all of these actions don't have the opposite effect? Let's say hypothetically Putin completely ceases in Ukraine and then loses the next Russian election. Now what? Do you think all of that economic damage inflicted upon the Russian people just vanishes? Isn't it possible the Russian people elect someone even more radical than Putin and make the problem worse? History is full of examples of this.

kube-system 4y ago
None of this is really Apple’s responsibility, nor is it reasonable for them to be playing the 4d chess that you’re entertaining. Apple isn’t a geopolitical humanitarian strategist organization. They’re a for-profit tech company. They sell widget to people with money unless they think it’s in the interest to not do so. Period
- infamouscow 4y ago
  > None of this is really Apple’s responsibility, nor is it reasonable for them to be playing the 4d chess that you’re entertaining. It's okay to put that burden on the Russian people, but not Apple? Why is Apple so special here? If you're going to make the consequentialist argument that a consequence of the Russian's allowing an echo chamber is Apple can remove apps, then you also need to apply that to Apple. You can't selectively apply logic when it's convenient to your argument and disregard it when it's not.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    Russia’s internal affairs are not Apple’s responsibility to fix. Nor is it within their power to do. I entertained someone else’s consequentialist argument above but I never made one myself. > a consequence of the Russian's allowing an echo chamber is Apple can remove apps Those are independent things, not a consequence of the other.
- chimineycricket 4y ago
  You would allow a company to do anything as long as its for-profit? Really?
  - kube-system 4y ago
    No, I wouldn’t. We’re talking about removing an app from an App Store. Not “anything”.

kube-system 4y ago

None of this is really Apple’s responsibility, nor is it reasonable for them to be playing the 4d chess that you’re entertaining. Apple isn’t a geopolitical humanitarian strategist organization. They’re a for-profit tech company. They sell widget to people with money unless they think it’s in the interest to not do so. Period

infamouscow 4y ago
> None of this is really Apple’s responsibility, nor is it reasonable for them to be playing the 4d chess that you’re entertaining. It's okay to put that burden on the Russian people, but not Apple? Why is Apple so special here? If you're going to make the consequentialist argument that a consequence of the Russian's allowing an echo chamber is Apple can remove apps, then you also need to apply that to Apple. You can't selectively apply logic when it's convenient to your argument and disregard it when it's not.
- kube-system 4y ago
  Russia’s internal affairs are not Apple’s responsibility to fix. Nor is it within their power to do. I entertained someone else’s consequentialist argument above but I never made one myself. > a consequence of the Russian's allowing an echo chamber is Apple can remove apps Those are independent things, not a consequence of the other.
chimineycricket 4y ago
You would allow a company to do anything as long as its for-profit? Really?
- kube-system 4y ago
  No, I wouldn’t. We’re talking about removing an app from an App Store. Not “anything”.