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And my nature as a man inclines me to burn pop-evolutionary-psychology takes, because it is natural for me to like fire, because fire was integral to my evoluti
by vkou 4y ago
And my nature as a man inclines me to burn pop-evolutionary-psychology takes, because it is natural for me to like fire, because fire was integral to my evolutionary survival, and burning garbage feeds the fire, and is therefore perfectly natural.
You're parading a collection of nonsense just-so-stories dressed up in a lab coat, and the beauty of them is that you can cherry-pick whatever narrative fits your pre-conceptions. That is, of course, also why they are utter rubbish, and not worth the paper they are printed on.
Are you saying something that isn't built on a quicksand of naturalistic fallacies? What exactly is it?
> but we shouldn't clutch our pearls when a boss dates a secretary
Right, because quid-pro-quo relationships, or even the appearance of quid-pro-quo relationships are fantastic for the workplace! Isn't it great for everyone else to see Sally get a raise after she starts fucking the boss? There's no conflict of interest, potential for abuse of power, or problem for anyone else involved!
Are there any other naturalistic practices we should normalize again in the workplace? Maybe kickbacks and bribes? Do we need a few just-so-stories to justify these practices, or can we forego that exercise in creative writing, and skip straight to the conclusions I want?
- cat_plus_plus 4y agoThat's another weird thing about today's progressives, literally putting workplace before family - aren't you guys supposed to be socialists? The alternative is for Sally, her boss and their coworkers to accept that romance can be impractical, inconvenient and embarrassing. But, if there is any chance at all that two people can find lasting happiness, a slim chance that I would have gotten that raise instead is a distant secondary priority. I will just insist on what I think I deserve and not obsess about others. Or if someone grants sexual favors for actual or perceived career benefit, it's on them to measure their self worth in this way. Or if the boss is willing to forego a sweetheart to avoid some office gossip and jealousy...
- vkou 4y agoUnless we're living in a Star Trek post-scarcity utopia, everyone needs to work for a living. Including all the people affected by this. You want to have a sexual relationship with your report? There's a very simple, professional, solution for you, which is to do as you advise - 'prioritize family over work', and have one of you move jobs so that you aren't ruining it for everyone else. There are more people in society than the two of you, and they are negatively affected by quid-pro-quo behaviour, or the appearance of quid-pro-quo behaviour.
- cat_plus_plus 4y agoLOL, like people who don't know where their next meal is coming from are the ones obsessing about who is hooking up with whom. Also what if my boss has a close friend? Cousin? Army/gym/golf buddy? Guess I will keep going around sticking my nose in other people's personal lives while humanity is going extinct in demographic collapse, because cleary everything being absolutely fair and equal to me down to microscopic level and nobody liking anybody a bit more than others is the most important thing in the world.