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And it's a great way to make the rest of Europe never give in to Russian no matter how much they suffer. If enough people in Europe saw their grandmother shiver

And it's a great way to make the rest of Europe never give in to Russian no matter how much they suffer. If enough people in Europe saw their grandmother shivering in January, they might rise up and say hell with it, we need our gas back no matter what the cost somewhere else in eastern Europe. But now they can't say that because it won't get the gas turned back on anyway.

bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
> we need our gas back What makes it their gas?
- phpthrowaway99 4y ago
  Their ability to buy gas that is usually available to them. People voted and lived in a society where things were handled. You voted and kept your government because things were handled. You voted the way you did because you were satisfied you could keep yourself warm in the winter at a fair price. Eventually, you consider that right yours, since it was described as something you have access to. Then suddenly someone you voted for decides, "hey, I know my party ran on getting that pipeline approved, and we invested in green energy as a certain ratio based on getting this gas to you when you need it, but guess what.... We've changed our mind. There are outside things more important than your ability to heat your home for a price you can afford." I'd consider that the politician turning off my access to affordable life sustaining gas.
  - bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
    You feel entitled to it at a certain price but it isn’t yours. Voting for it to be available to be yours doesn’t make it yours. Just pointing out that it isn’t like you’re talking about your country’s national reserves that are being sold elsewhere instead of to you. I don’t mean to sound disparaging but a good set of winter clothes will ensure survival through the winter better than whatever gas/price ratio you feel entitled to.

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And it's a great way to make the rest of Europe never give in to Russian no matter how much they suffer. If enough people in Europe saw their grandmother shiver

by phpthrowaway99 4y ago

bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
> we need our gas back What makes it their gas?
- phpthrowaway99 4y ago
  Their ability to buy gas that is usually available to them. People voted and lived in a society where things were handled. You voted and kept your government because things were handled. You voted the way you did because you were satisfied you could keep yourself warm in the winter at a fair price. Eventually, you consider that right yours, since it was described as something you have access to. Then suddenly someone you voted for decides, "hey, I know my party ran on getting that pipeline approved, and we invested in green energy as a certain ratio based on getting this gas to you when you need it, but guess what.... We've changed our mind. There are outside things more important than your ability to heat your home for a price you can afford." I'd consider that the politician turning off my access to affordable life sustaining gas.
  - bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
    You feel entitled to it at a certain price but it isn’t yours. Voting for it to be available to be yours doesn’t make it yours. Just pointing out that it isn’t like you’re talking about your country’s national reserves that are being sold elsewhere instead of to you. I don’t mean to sound disparaging but a good set of winter clothes will ensure survival through the winter better than whatever gas/price ratio you feel entitled to.