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Believe me, if I the syntax in Dutch would keep, get you a very strange result. (This is a literal translation of a correct Dutch sentence.)

jhardy54 4y ago
Translation or transliteration?
- englishrookie 4y ago
  No transliteration: Dutch uses the Latin alphabet.
  - grumpopotamus 4y ago
    Maybe word for word translation is the phrase we're looking for? As opposed to an idiomatic translation. Transliteration means phonetically translating from one alphabet to another, in order to p reserve the pronunciation.
    - jhardy54 4y ago
      Exactly this — I thought that’s what “transliteration” meant, but I was wrong. I appreciate the pointer.
  - jhardy54 4y ago
    Thanks, I didn’t realize that I’ve been using that word incorrectly. I should have said ‘literal translation’. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literal_translation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literal_translation
aix1 4y ago
> Believe me, if I the syntax in Dutch would keep, get you a very strange result. (This is a literal translation of a correct Dutch sentence.) Of course there are differences, but both Dutch and English are West Germanic languages (descended from proto-Germanic) whereas Portuguese is a Romance language (descended from Latin). Here is a handy tree showing how various languages are related to each other: https://d1sjtleuqoc1be.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/linguist-family-tree.jpg https://d1sjtleuqoc1be.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/201...
- tomtomtom777 4y ago
  Such a tree mostly describes word similarity. But translating words is not what an AI (or more generally a computer) has problems with. It's word ordering and idioms where AIs stand or fall. Things that show very little correlation in the evolution of language.
  - xhevahir 4y ago
    > Such a tree mostly describes word similarity. It describes genetic descent.
- tighter_wires 4y ago
  Very valuable insight - I am sure the Dutch speaker you’re informing had no idea what Romance languages are
forgingahead 4y ago
Yoda was Dutch?
- DrSiemer 4y ago
  He does live in a swamp, so he could be an ancestor

jhardy54 4y ago

Translation or transliteration?

englishrookie 4y ago
No transliteration: Dutch uses the Latin alphabet.
- grumpopotamus 4y ago
  Maybe word for word translation is the phrase we're looking for? As opposed to an idiomatic translation. Transliteration means phonetically translating from one alphabet to another, in order to p reserve the pronunciation.
  - jhardy54 4y ago
    Exactly this — I thought that’s what “transliteration” meant, but I was wrong. I appreciate the pointer.
- jhardy54 4y ago
  Thanks, I didn’t realize that I’ve been using that word incorrectly. I should have said ‘literal translation’. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literal_translation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literal_translation

aix1 4y ago

> Believe me, if I the syntax in Dutch would keep, get you a very strange result. (This is a literal translation of a correct Dutch sentence.) Of course there are differences, but both Dutch and English are West Germanic languages (descended from proto-Germanic) whereas Portuguese is a Romance language (descended from Latin). Here is a handy tree showing how various languages are related to each other: https://d1sjtleuqoc1be.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/linguist-family-tree.jpg https://d1sjtleuqoc1be.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/201...

tomtomtom777 4y ago
Such a tree mostly describes word similarity. But translating words is not what an AI (or more generally a computer) has problems with. It's word ordering and idioms where AIs stand or fall. Things that show very little correlation in the evolution of language.
- xhevahir 4y ago
  > Such a tree mostly describes word similarity. It describes genetic descent.
tighter_wires 4y ago
Very valuable insight - I am sure the Dutch speaker you’re informing had no idea what Romance languages are

forgingahead 4y ago

Yoda was Dutch?

DrSiemer 4y ago
He does live in a swamp, so he could be an ancestor