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Oh, I'd be so in to take part in this drama. It would probably be one of the most memorable job interviews of all time. And I doubt there would be too many leg

Oh, I'd be so in to take part in this drama. It would probably be one of the most memorable job interviews of all time. And I doubt there would be too many legal or corporate ramifications from allowing someone else to be on the call with their camera off. These are contractor positions, not full-time. Frankly, it's a risk I would take to be able to witness this sort of thing in real-time.

lazide 4y ago
Eh, don't bet on it. What if #2 was real, and #1 was someone stalking #2? Or an abusive ex? If #2 doesn't get the the potential job, they could come after you for all sorts of things - emotional damages, economic damage (from not getting the job), etc. They might even be able to get the court to force you to give them the job, or at least waste years of your time and mental health dealing with legal hassles. It's hilarious and awesomely entertaining, but don't do it if you have assets someone could go after, as eventually, someone will.
- filmgirlcw 4y ago
  I mean, you're hiring a contractor off of Upwork, not from a reputable consultancy (to be clear, I'm sure established consultancies do shady shit too, but the risk profile is different), so I think the risk is pretty small. We're talking edge cases on a scenario that is already an edge case.
  - sinoue 4y ago
    Even UpWork requires government ID verification. https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010609234-ID-Verification-Badge https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010609234-ID... I wonder what financial fraud they'll need to do to get the funds as I'm assuming UpWork has to deal with tax payments being pulled out.
    - filmgirlcw 4y ago
      Yeah, I have to imagine they might be using a group account on Upwork and then misrepresenting the coder as a part of their team, but I don’t know enough about how Upwork works. I posted about this blog post on Twitter and was directed a Reddit post [1] showing how little Upwork seems to care about fake reviews and stolen work product, so it appears Upwork has a history of ignoring fraud, regardless of what their terms say. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/xavntw/freelancer_stealing_my_work_and_making_35kmo/ https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/xavntw/freelan...
    - lupire 4y ago
      Scammer can open a bank account using a fake ID for Connor. So they hire the real Connor but money goes to a foreign country, to an account owned by the imposter.
    - sumedh 4y ago
      > Even UpWork requires government ID verification. I dont think it will be too difficult for a scammer to setup a bank account with a false name.
- NaturalPhallacy 4y ago
  I think the fact that it's a zoom interview changes things. Even if one of them is stalking the other, it's not like they're physically in the same conference room together. the worst they can really do is yell at each other.
- dannyw 4y ago
  Acting in good faith, does matter here.

lazide 4y ago

Eh, don't bet on it. What if #2 was real, and #1 was someone stalking #2? Or an abusive ex? If #2 doesn't get the the potential job, they could come after you for all sorts of things - emotional damages, economic damage (from not getting the job), etc. They might even be able to get the court to force you to give them the job, or at least waste years of your time and mental health dealing with legal hassles. It's hilarious and awesomely entertaining, but don't do it if you have assets someone could go after, as eventually, someone will.

filmgirlcw 4y ago
I mean, you're hiring a contractor off of Upwork, not from a reputable consultancy (to be clear, I'm sure established consultancies do shady shit too, but the risk profile is different), so I think the risk is pretty small. We're talking edge cases on a scenario that is already an edge case.
- sinoue 4y ago
  Even UpWork requires government ID verification. https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010609234-ID-Verification-Badge https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010609234-ID... I wonder what financial fraud they'll need to do to get the funds as I'm assuming UpWork has to deal with tax payments being pulled out.
  - filmgirlcw 4y ago
    Yeah, I have to imagine they might be using a group account on Upwork and then misrepresenting the coder as a part of their team, but I don’t know enough about how Upwork works. I posted about this blog post on Twitter and was directed a Reddit post [1] showing how little Upwork seems to care about fake reviews and stolen work product, so it appears Upwork has a history of ignoring fraud, regardless of what their terms say. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/xavntw/freelancer_stealing_my_work_and_making_35kmo/ https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/xavntw/freelan...
  - lupire 4y ago
    Scammer can open a bank account using a fake ID for Connor. So they hire the real Connor but money goes to a foreign country, to an account owned by the imposter.
  - sumedh 4y ago
    > Even UpWork requires government ID verification. I dont think it will be too difficult for a scammer to setup a bank account with a false name.
NaturalPhallacy 4y ago
I think the fact that it's a zoom interview changes things. Even if one of them is stalking the other, it's not like they're physically in the same conference room together. the worst they can really do is yell at each other.
dannyw 4y ago
Acting in good faith, does matter here.