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I don't get why Apple's user experience keeps being repeated as "second to none". It really depends on what you are doing and used to. I personally find Android

I don't get why Apple's user experience keeps being repeated as "second to none". It really depends on what you are doing and used to. I personally find Android easier to use than iOS, but maybe I would feel differently if I haven't been using it for a while.

PlsDntBan 4y ago
pGuitar 4y ago
Apple always had anti-consumer rules for their products... not sure why it finally took off.
- boxed 4y ago
  Besides them inventing the modern smart phone and revolutionizing an industry? What did the romans ever do for US? :P
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    All Apple did is commodify the industry, and that business model has proven to be successful for them (same as it was with the iPod). At the end of the day, Apple's contributions to technology aren't chivalric acts of kindness. Their ultimate goal is the same as everyone, running a rent collection business and relying on their services to make consistent income. That's what I think we need to fix. Apple can continue to make phones, we just need to separate their services (the App Store, Apple Music, Apple TV, Podcasts, etc.) from their hardware business. If they did that, I might actually buy a Mac again!
    - scarface74 4y ago
      A commodity is something by definition that is easily substitutable and you have to compete on price. Apple products are anything but a “commodity”. This is kinda Econ 101.
    - wombat-man 4y ago
      The iPod and the iPhone both felt like big steps at the time. For both of those categories Apple led by example and basically forced everyone to try to fit their example.
    - boxed 4y ago
      > All Apple did is commodify the industry No. Look at what high end "smartphones" looked like before the iPhone. It's a DRAMATIC shift. > At the end of the day, Apple's contributions to technology aren't chivalric acts of kindness. What? No one claimed that. The romans didn't build aqueducts and roads because they were nice either. But that's totally irrelevant.
  - norin 4y ago
    they gave us Nokia
  - norin 4y ago
    Nokia?
  - pGuitar 4y ago
    They did start the phones as we know them today.... but better Android ones with slide out keyboards came out soon after
    - thiht 4y ago
      > better Android ones with slide out keyboards That's the weirdest thing I've read in a while. No one cares about that.
      - pGuitar 4y ago
        yeah because companies are trying to save money and got rid of them before most people had a cellphone (so they don't know what they are missing)
        boxed 4y ago
        What people want: 1. more screen 2. smaller phone (unless it contradicts rule 1) 3. longer battery life (unless it contradicts rule 1 or 2) It's really that simple. Apple fought against this a long time before they gave up and realized the truth. They shipped smaller phones long after Android had moved on to larger screens.
  - davmar 4y ago
    brought peace?
- kalleboo 4y ago
  Anti-consumer but pro-user
stevage 4y ago
Agreed. And just look at the debacles of their various mice and keyboards to see how much they actually care about delivering great user experience for everyone. They prioritise "design" and company image every time.
pcurve 4y ago
I use both Mac/Windows/ios/android I agree 100%. I would even say the same about Windows vs MacOS I'm so fed up with all the hidden gestures. That's all fine, but give me redundant buttons / controls too.
throwaway4220 4y ago
I switched over to the dark side (Apple) specifically after I explained to my mom how to pair AirPods. Idk what pairing in android is like now to be fair
- dehugger 4y ago
  You pull down on the screen to show the top cards for various settings and long press Bluetooth to open up options, then press "+Pair Device". Put whatever device you are connecting in pairing mode, then click on it in that list once it shows up. It's pretty self explanatory on the Android side, the issues seem to stem from the implementation of Bluetooth on many other devices. This is on a Pixel 4.
- jonas-w 4y ago
  With samsung and the galaxy buds, you open the buds charging case. Then a pop up comes up on your phone, you tap connect and it installs the control panel for your buds and that's it. It seems to be the same on ios.
  - whatarethembits 4y ago
    Ahh apple forced them to improve this experience after all eh? I remember Bluetooth pairing quite a bit slower and cumbersome on Android pre-airpods era.
summerlight 4y ago
Although iOS is my personal preference over Android, I frequently find myself stuck whenever I tried to go beyond Apple's intended "user journey/flow". It definitely has a trade off.

PlsDntBan 4y ago

pGuitar 4y ago

Apple always had anti-consumer rules for their products... not sure why it finally took off.

boxed 4y ago
Besides them inventing the modern smart phone and revolutionizing an industry? What did the romans ever do for US? :P
- smoldesu 4y ago
  All Apple did is commodify the industry, and that business model has proven to be successful for them (same as it was with the iPod). At the end of the day, Apple's contributions to technology aren't chivalric acts of kindness. Their ultimate goal is the same as everyone, running a rent collection business and relying on their services to make consistent income. That's what I think we need to fix. Apple can continue to make phones, we just need to separate their services (the App Store, Apple Music, Apple TV, Podcasts, etc.) from their hardware business. If they did that, I might actually buy a Mac again!
  - scarface74 4y ago
    A commodity is something by definition that is easily substitutable and you have to compete on price. Apple products are anything but a “commodity”. This is kinda Econ 101.
  - wombat-man 4y ago
    The iPod and the iPhone both felt like big steps at the time. For both of those categories Apple led by example and basically forced everyone to try to fit their example.
  - boxed 4y ago
    > All Apple did is commodify the industry No. Look at what high end "smartphones" looked like before the iPhone. It's a DRAMATIC shift. > At the end of the day, Apple's contributions to technology aren't chivalric acts of kindness. What? No one claimed that. The romans didn't build aqueducts and roads because they were nice either. But that's totally irrelevant.
- norin 4y ago
  they gave us Nokia
- norin 4y ago
  Nokia?
- pGuitar 4y ago
  They did start the phones as we know them today.... but better Android ones with slide out keyboards came out soon after
  - thiht 4y ago
    > better Android ones with slide out keyboards That's the weirdest thing I've read in a while. No one cares about that.
    - pGuitar 4y ago
      yeah because companies are trying to save money and got rid of them before most people had a cellphone (so they don't know what they are missing)
      - boxed 4y ago
        What people want: 1. more screen 2. smaller phone (unless it contradicts rule 1) 3. longer battery life (unless it contradicts rule 1 or 2) It's really that simple. Apple fought against this a long time before they gave up and realized the truth. They shipped smaller phones long after Android had moved on to larger screens.
- davmar 4y ago
  brought peace?
kalleboo 4y ago
Anti-consumer but pro-user

stevage 4y ago

Agreed. And just look at the debacles of their various mice and keyboards to see how much they actually care about delivering great user experience for everyone. They prioritise "design" and company image every time.

pcurve 4y ago

I use both Mac/Windows/ios/android I agree 100%. I would even say the same about Windows vs MacOS I'm so fed up with all the hidden gestures. That's all fine, but give me redundant buttons / controls too.

throwaway4220 4y ago

I switched over to the dark side (Apple) specifically after I explained to my mom how to pair AirPods. Idk what pairing in android is like now to be fair

dehugger 4y ago
You pull down on the screen to show the top cards for various settings and long press Bluetooth to open up options, then press "+Pair Device". Put whatever device you are connecting in pairing mode, then click on it in that list once it shows up. It's pretty self explanatory on the Android side, the issues seem to stem from the implementation of Bluetooth on many other devices. This is on a Pixel 4.
jonas-w 4y ago
With samsung and the galaxy buds, you open the buds charging case. Then a pop up comes up on your phone, you tap connect and it installs the control panel for your buds and that's it. It seems to be the same on ios.
- whatarethembits 4y ago
  Ahh apple forced them to improve this experience after all eh? I remember Bluetooth pairing quite a bit slower and cumbersome on Android pre-airpods era.

summerlight 4y ago

Although iOS is my personal preference over Android, I frequently find myself stuck whenever I tried to go beyond Apple's intended "user journey/flow". It definitely has a trade off.