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Gas prices had fallen back to the lowest levels in 3 months, but because of the sabotage, prices have gone up again because this has created uncertainty in the

Gas prices had fallen back to the lowest levels in 3 months, but because of the sabotage, prices have gone up again because this has created uncertainty in the energy market. The kremlin wants to deliberately destabilize Europe and make it as difficult as possible with a big energy crisis, so support and aid to Ukraine falls. And its going bad for putin and his war now so he is also desperate, just look at the crazy mobilization of 300.000 russian to the war. The russians already know that these pipelines are dead and the export trough them will end and sabotaging them is very much in the russians interest because of the consequences and as we can see now increased energy costs in EU which benefits the russian agenda. Some say its US because Biden talk. But both pipes was already closed. Nordstream 2 was never used and nordstream 1 was shut down by the russians. The US hade no reason because no gas was flowing. IMHO its no doubt its the russians, they are the only one that gain from this, in their energy war against EU. They also have submarines in the baltic sea. And its shallow waters between Denmark and Sweden (just 11-18m) that big subs from other countries can not easy pass without getting noticed and a lot of traffic that make it risky.

petre 4y ago
I see Biden's talk as soft power rather than threats "they'll shut down NS2 themselves, we'll make sure of that". It's not like the previous administration hasn't warned Germany and the EU about NS1/2, Russian gas bad habits.
4bpp 4y ago
Why would keeping the pipelines operational not be a strictly dominant (over blowing the pipelines up) strategy if reducing EU support and aid to Ukraine is the objective? Having the pipeline there but not delivering anything through it results in the same lack of gas, but also adds the option of dangling the possibility of delivering some in return for support and aid being reduced. The most obvious beneficiary of the pipelines being blown are those countries that would stand to lose from the option of resumed delivery being available (and potentially taken) by Germany, that is, Ukraine, Baltic countries (who have a cultural and geopolitical interest in its victory) and the US (which has a geopolitical interest in its victory and a financial interest in selling LNG to Germany). Why do you think that these potential benefits to the countries in question are not real?

petre 4y ago

I see Biden's talk as soft power rather than threats "they'll shut down NS2 themselves, we'll make sure of that". It's not like the previous administration hasn't warned Germany and the EU about NS1/2, Russian gas bad habits.

4bpp 4y ago

Why would keeping the pipelines operational not be a strictly dominant (over blowing the pipelines up) strategy if reducing EU support and aid to Ukraine is the objective? Having the pipeline there but not delivering anything through it results in the same lack of gas, but also adds the option of dangling the possibility of delivering some in return for support and aid being reduced. The most obvious beneficiary of the pipelines being blown are those countries that would stand to lose from the option of resumed delivery being available (and potentially taken) by Germany, that is, Ukraine, Baltic countries (who have a cultural and geopolitical interest in its victory) and the US (which has a geopolitical interest in its victory and a financial interest in selling LNG to Germany). Why do you think that these potential benefits to the countries in question are not real?