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It doesn't make sense to suggest that the OP's company deserves this because some other companies did some things you didn't like. This idea that all businesses

It doesn't make sense to suggest that the OP's company deserves this because some other companies did some things you didn't like. This idea that all businesses are bad and deserve to be cheated by their employees is extremely immature. > When companies outsource to dodgy subcontractors it's fine, but when the common man does it suddenly it's no good? Subcontractors are engaged on different terms and with specific contracts that require subcontractors to also engage in specific contracts. If an individual employee hands their logins to someone else and says "pretend its me" then it's clear fraud, not to mention a breach of the documents you agreed to when you signed. > In business this is called "business process outsourcing", No, it's not. Outsourcing specific operations is done with carefully limited access to only the data necessary. Hiring a programmer and giving them access to your company Slack and source code is entirely different.

Nextgrid 4y ago
> Outsourcing specific operations is done with carefully limited access to only the data necessary. So carefully limited that insiders from said sweatshops end up taking (laughably low) bribes to perform things like fraudulent SIM swaps, access customer accounts, etc? In theory it must be all well and controlled and in a proper world nobody would be doing fraud, whether for themselves or a third-party. In reality there's very little oversight over it on the companies' side (and a slap on the wrist if by some miracle regulators actually get involved) so seeing them complain about being on the receiving end of this is some sweet schadenfreude.
lmm 4y ago
> It doesn't make sense to suggest that the OP's company deserves this because some other companies did some things you didn't like. This idea that all businesses are bad and deserve to be cheated by their employees is extremely immature. When the business lobby (that represents, or at least purports to represent, businesses as a whole) has asked for, and got, the laws that make this profitable for them, the responsibility falls on all businesses to a certain extent.

Nextgrid 4y ago

> Outsourcing specific operations is done with carefully limited access to only the data necessary. So carefully limited that insiders from said sweatshops end up taking (laughably low) bribes to perform things like fraudulent SIM swaps, access customer accounts, etc? In theory it must be all well and controlled and in a proper world nobody would be doing fraud, whether for themselves or a third-party. In reality there's very little oversight over it on the companies' side (and a slap on the wrist if by some miracle regulators actually get involved) so seeing them complain about being on the receiving end of this is some sweet schadenfreude.

lmm 4y ago

> It doesn't make sense to suggest that the OP's company deserves this because some other companies did some things you didn't like. This idea that all businesses are bad and deserve to be cheated by their employees is extremely immature. When the business lobby (that represents, or at least purports to represent, businesses as a whole) has asked for, and got, the laws that make this profitable for them, the responsibility falls on all businesses to a certain extent.