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I don't want to sound like I have an axe to grind (but I do), but this is the kind of feature/wart that shows the age of the HTML/CSS/JS stack. The whole thing

I don't want to sound like I have an axe to grind (but I do), but this is the kind of feature/wart that shows the age of the HTML/CSS/JS stack. The whole thing is ripe for a redo. I know they get a lot of hate, but of all the big players in this space I think FB is the best equipped to do this in a way that doesn't ruin everything. I just wonder if they have an incentive (maybe trying to break the Google/MS hegemony on search?).

eptcyka 4y ago
The best equipped to do this are Google/MS/Apple because they actually control the source code of relevant contemporary browsers.
- debacle 4y ago
  I think that this is the case (right now) because of Apple's stranglehold on the browser on iOS and the complex relationship between Google/Apple. If FB could launch a browser on iOS that was in their walled garden, not only would it quickly receive wide adoption but it might become people's primary browser. Not that I necessarily think that's a good thing, mind you.
  - eptcyka 4y ago
    Why would it quickly receive any adoption? Of all of the behemoths, I would trust FB the least here. Not that I trust any of the other big players enough not to use Firefox everywhere I can.
    - debacle 4y ago
      The word "trust" doesn't factor into ~90% of users' decisions. If FB says "hey install this app," they will install it.
tfsh 4y ago
Could you explain how rewriting one of the worlds most complex and critical specifications would break of the Google/MS hegemony on search?
- debacle 4y ago
  Sorry, what I meant was: "If FB decided to try and break into search, then they might decide to attack the HTML/CSS/JS stack." Not the other way around.
WallyFunk 4y ago
> The whole thing is ripe for a redo Web developers have worked around quirks for as long as I can remember. The stack has many warts, but we learn to adapt to them. Like 90% of a web developer's job is working around gotchas, and will continue that way. A 'redo' might not be needed. Developers need something to moan about and need something to keep them employed :)
goatlover 4y ago
There’s always WASM, and I think Zuck is more interested in VR than trying to push a new web standard.
doliveira 4y ago
I find it pretty funny that we humans have invented all these transpilers and bundlers, invested probably billions of dollars in JITs, just to keep writing JS

eptcyka 4y ago

The best equipped to do this are Google/MS/Apple because they actually control the source code of relevant contemporary browsers.

debacle 4y ago
I think that this is the case (right now) because of Apple's stranglehold on the browser on iOS and the complex relationship between Google/Apple. If FB could launch a browser on iOS that was in their walled garden, not only would it quickly receive wide adoption but it might become people's primary browser. Not that I necessarily think that's a good thing, mind you.
- eptcyka 4y ago
  Why would it quickly receive any adoption? Of all of the behemoths, I would trust FB the least here. Not that I trust any of the other big players enough not to use Firefox everywhere I can.
  - debacle 4y ago
    The word "trust" doesn't factor into ~90% of users' decisions. If FB says "hey install this app," they will install it.

tfsh 4y ago

Could you explain how rewriting one of the worlds most complex and critical specifications would break of the Google/MS hegemony on search?

debacle 4y ago
Sorry, what I meant was: "If FB decided to try and break into search, then they might decide to attack the HTML/CSS/JS stack." Not the other way around.

WallyFunk 4y ago

> The whole thing is ripe for a redo Web developers have worked around quirks for as long as I can remember. The stack has many warts, but we learn to adapt to them. Like 90% of a web developer's job is working around gotchas, and will continue that way. A 'redo' might not be needed. Developers need something to moan about and need something to keep them employed :)

goatlover 4y ago

There’s always WASM, and I think Zuck is more interested in VR than trying to push a new web standard.

doliveira 4y ago

I find it pretty funny that we humans have invented all these transpilers and bundlers, invested probably billions of dollars in JITs, just to keep writing JS