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> The next question is, who did it? It doesn't seem like something in Russia's interest, they've been wanting to get that pipeline approved and operational. The

> The next question is, who did it? It doesn't seem like something in Russia's interest, they've been wanting to get that pipeline approved and operational. They invested huge sums of money to build it after all. NS2 never entering service was settled for good over 200 days ago. NS1 has been shut down by Russia, but it was at best dubious before this whether it would ever be used operationally again.

origin_path 4y ago
It wasn't "settled for good", that's silly, it was still there pressurized and ready to go. Germany recently saw protests by people who wanted to open it, and some politicians saying it needed to be opened, and it is safe to assume that if things got really bad in Germany this winter they would have opened it. Clearly, whoever has attacked these pipelines knew perfectly well that the story about Russia being unwilling to sell gas was nonsense, and also knew perfectly well that European sanctions would collapse in the face of rotating blackouts. Apparently someone very powerful cares more about fucking Russia than fucking Europeans.
- LargoLasskhyfv 4y ago
  The last remains of Baltops 2022 passed by there about just short of a week ago. https://www.kreiszeitung.de/lokales/schleswig-holstein/fehmarn/grosser-flottenverband-der-us-navy-passiert-fehmarnbelt-91809308.html https://www.kreiszeitung.de/lokales/schleswig-holstein/fehma...
- keewee7 4y ago
  >Germany recently saw protests by people who wanted to open it, and some politicians saying it needed to be opened The protests were made up of AfD supporters and Russian/Serbian immigrants, and the the only politicians saying it needs to be opened are from the AfD. They are not representative of German public and political sentiments.
  - nix23 4y ago
    >the only politicians saying it needs to be opened are from the AfD. Ah yeah Wagenknecht is part of the AfD now?
    - scraptor 4y ago
      Just the opposite, she's a far left communist of the variety with strong bonds to russia. Which doesn't make her any more politically relevant.
      - nix23 4y ago
        I think she is extremely relevant and with Gysi some of the few reasonable voices.
  - LawTalkingGuy 4y ago
    Correct. But Russia's hope was that this would change as Germany got colder. They were probably right.
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- plutonorm 4y ago
  best take here.
cjbgkagh 4y ago
Nothing in politics is settled for good.

origin_path 4y ago

It wasn't "settled for good", that's silly, it was still there pressurized and ready to go. Germany recently saw protests by people who wanted to open it, and some politicians saying it needed to be opened, and it is safe to assume that if things got really bad in Germany this winter they would have opened it. Clearly, whoever has attacked these pipelines knew perfectly well that the story about Russia being unwilling to sell gas was nonsense, and also knew perfectly well that European sanctions would collapse in the face of rotating blackouts. Apparently someone very powerful cares more about fucking Russia than fucking Europeans.

LargoLasskhyfv 4y ago
The last remains of Baltops 2022 passed by there about just short of a week ago. https://www.kreiszeitung.de/lokales/schleswig-holstein/fehmarn/grosser-flottenverband-der-us-navy-passiert-fehmarnbelt-91809308.html https://www.kreiszeitung.de/lokales/schleswig-holstein/fehma...
keewee7 4y ago
>Germany recently saw protests by people who wanted to open it, and some politicians saying it needed to be opened The protests were made up of AfD supporters and Russian/Serbian immigrants, and the the only politicians saying it needs to be opened are from the AfD. They are not representative of German public and political sentiments.
- nix23 4y ago
  >the only politicians saying it needs to be opened are from the AfD. Ah yeah Wagenknecht is part of the AfD now?
  - scraptor 4y ago
    Just the opposite, she's a far left communist of the variety with strong bonds to russia. Which doesn't make her any more politically relevant.
    - nix23 4y ago
      I think she is extremely relevant and with Gysi some of the few reasonable voices.
- LawTalkingGuy 4y ago
  Correct. But Russia's hope was that this would change as Germany got colder. They were probably right.
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plutonorm 4y ago
best take here.

cjbgkagh 4y ago

Nothing in politics is settled for good.