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Poland has an ideal device for this sabotage https://www.gospodarkamorska.pl/zdjecia/artykul/25081/135779/790x0/2/article.jpg https://www.gospodarkamorska.pl/z

Poland has an ideal device for this sabotage https://www.gospodarkamorska.pl/zdjecia/artykul/25081/135779/790x0/2/article.jpg https://www.gospodarkamorska.pl/zdjecia/artykul/25081/135779...

Tade0 4y ago
If it was actually used this way I'll: 1. Eat my hat. 2. Go out and protest. It would have been quite the new low, even for the current establishment.
MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
Why does everyone assume the need for submersibles? Why not a small patrol boat dropping some depth charges on a time delay in the middle of the night?
- ed_balls 4y ago
  > patrol boat dropping some depth charges on a time delay in the middle of the night That's also an option, but you would have problems with precision and deniability*. You could use some WW2 style device and blame it on German mines that are still present.
  - MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
    I'm not sure deniability is so important when it's multiple coordinated explosions. How else could it have been done.. What about explosives being built in from day 0? Sort of like how some bridges in Europe were pre-mined during the cold war?
    - ed_balls 4y ago
      by deniability I mean that you cannot be sure if this is Russia, USA or someone else. If you use depth charges, they explode in certain way and leave some debris which say "this was XXX bomb so must be Russia/USA". This is sabotage for sure.
  - rdtwo 4y ago
    It’s a pretty overt act to blow both up. Someone was making a statement
  - LargoLasskhyfv 4y ago
    If you knew the exact position of the pipes, why would there be a problem with precision? Maybe there are lighthouses in sight which you could use to line up exactly, maybe you'd use gps/glonass, maybe you'd have some plane go by near at a specified time, doing it for you, saying via radio, all good, drop it?
    - verdverm 4y ago
      Water currents could be one cause of inaccuracies
    - zmgsabst 4y ago
      How much does an object drift in 100m of water and how accurate do you need to be?
Tade0 4y ago
Follow up: It might have been a drone: https://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2022-09-27-norge-advarer-om-mystiske-droner-ved-olieplatforme-i-nordsoeen https://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2022-09-27-norge-advarer-om-my...

Poland has an ideal device for this sabotage https://www.gospodarkamorska.pl/zdjecia/artykul/25081/135779/790x0/2/article.jpg https://www.gospodarkamorska.pl/zdjecia/artykul/25081/135779...

Tade0 4y ago

If it was actually used this way I'll: 1. Eat my hat. 2. Go out and protest. It would have been quite the new low, even for the current establishment.

MonkeyMalarky 4y ago

Why does everyone assume the need for submersibles? Why not a small patrol boat dropping some depth charges on a time delay in the middle of the night?

ed_balls 4y ago
> patrol boat dropping some depth charges on a time delay in the middle of the night That's also an option, but you would have problems with precision and deniability*. You could use some WW2 style device and blame it on German mines that are still present.
- MonkeyMalarky 4y ago
  I'm not sure deniability is so important when it's multiple coordinated explosions. How else could it have been done.. What about explosives being built in from day 0? Sort of like how some bridges in Europe were pre-mined during the cold war?
  - ed_balls 4y ago
    by deniability I mean that you cannot be sure if this is Russia, USA or someone else. If you use depth charges, they explode in certain way and leave some debris which say "this was XXX bomb so must be Russia/USA". This is sabotage for sure.
- rdtwo 4y ago
  It’s a pretty overt act to blow both up. Someone was making a statement
- LargoLasskhyfv 4y ago
  If you knew the exact position of the pipes, why would there be a problem with precision? Maybe there are lighthouses in sight which you could use to line up exactly, maybe you'd use gps/glonass, maybe you'd have some plane go by near at a specified time, doing it for you, saying via radio, all good, drop it?
  - verdverm 4y ago
    Water currents could be one cause of inaccuracies
  - zmgsabst 4y ago
    How much does an object drift in 100m of water and how accurate do you need to be?

Tade0 4y ago

Follow up: It might have been a drone: https://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2022-09-27-norge-advarer-om-mystiske-droner-ved-olieplatforme-i-nordsoeen https://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2022-09-27-norge-advarer-om-my...