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Sounds like they’re complying with sanctions as any US business must do
by cgb223 4y ago
Sounds like they’re complying with sanctions as any US business must do
- Bilal_io 4y agoIf Apple sold phones in Russia, do they also have to delete those apps there? If the answer is yes, that's very troubling, and it goes beyond complying with US regulations IMO.
- andrepew 4y agoThe app store is a separate business than hardware. They don't have to delete already installed apps, but continuing to distribute them I imagine the US government definitely does have the power to stop.
- dijit 4y agoBy the letter of the law, you’re mistaken. it bears repeating that laws do not follow morality though, of course. Personally: I find it deeply uncomfortable that nearly all tech seems to come out of the US, where sanctions and rules are applied unilaterally, with only relatively minor pushback. I have even had issues supporting users when I was transitioning from bare-metal to cloud due to US sanctions blocking Cuba, Iran and a part of Ukraine (Crimea) which is nearly impossible for us to avoid selling our product to accidentally, dooming anyone living there to buy a product that can never work. (The product was a multiplayer game)
- KptMarchewa 4y agoIt does not even matter whether you're coming from US. It matters whether you want to do any business in US or with US organizations.
- anonym29 4y ago
- kube-system 4y agoAre you comparing genocide to an app being removed from an app store?
- anonym29 4y ago
- kube-system 4y agoWhich one of those is comparable to removing an app from an app store?
- anonym29 4y agoThe point being made isn't that warrantless data harvesting by corporations on behalf of a hostile spy agency is the moral equivalent of a corporation assaulting the ability of innocent civilians trapped in a despotic regime to access outside information, it's that "the government told us we need to" is not a good excuse for perpetrating any social ills. Would you like to present a case that it's somehow a positive for American companies to condemn innocent Russian civilians to an echo chamber of pro-Russia sentiment, and that freedom of information is somehow a bad thing for those unarmed women and children?
- kube-system 4y agoRussia’s media echo chamber is Russia’s own doing. Apple has the right to stop doing businesses with entities they find objectionable. If they can kick people out for having the wrong shape icon, they can kick them out for anything VK has been accused of.
- infamouscow 4y agoI think you forgot to mention the "innocent civilians trapped in a despotic regime" part. Can you please justify Apple's actions with regards to those people in your consequentialist argument?
- restore_creole_ 4y agoIf it was a result of sanctions then wouldn't Google Play also block them?