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Pipes can be repaired. Russia has been slowing down supplies through the NS1 pipe -- down to 1/10th of Germany's normal supply before halting. [1] [2] Blowing

Pipes can be repaired. Russia has been slowing down supplies through the NS1 pipe -- down to 1/10th of Germany's normal supply before halting. [1] [2] Blowing up a pipe that can be repaired to cause friction between allies? That's priceless. The fact that it's cause for speculation on Facebook, Reddit, HN, Twitter, etc shows exactly how disruptive of a move it was. [1] https://www.spiegel.de/international/business/a-winter-of-privation-what-the-natural-gas-shortage-means-for-germany-a-0ff0fe91-e05c-4ba9-bd4b-03f00a0b3fdf https://www.spiegel.de/international/business/a-winter-of-pr... [2] https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/mystery-gas-leaks-hit-major-russian-undersea-gas-pipelines-europe-2022-09-27/ https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/mystery-gas-leaks-hi... "Neither pipeline was pumping gas to Europe at the time the leaks were found..."

gpderetta 4y ago
The begging back theory doesn't make sense. Sowing discontent and suspicion between allies right when some of them are electing Russia-frendly government has more merit. It would be interesting to watch this evolving, if it wasn't fucking scary.
- ajsnigrutin 4y ago
  > when some of them are electing Russia-frendly government What's wrong with that? I mean... we're either a democracy, and people choose their own government, or we're being governed by some other external force not obeying the wishes of the people.... if italy choses to be friendly with the russians, their people wanted that, so why not?
  - mmastrac 4y ago
    You can't really state that without bringing up the proven fact that the Russians have been running pro-Russian, as well as divisive campaigns all across the world.
    - redeeman 4y ago
      so... russia runs a few ad campaigns and we abolish democracy... that is, if the wrong side wins?
      - mmastrac 4y ago
        That's... not even close to what I was saying at all.
    - ajsnigrutin 4y ago
      You have a same bunch of politicians in and out of parliament, while people are going through locdowns, massive rinting of money, with scraps going to the people, lockdowns, record inflation and energy crisis, while those same politicians get paid more and more plus they steal even more, so people want some kind of change, any change, just to get rid of the current ones... but no, it's the russians and their facebook posts, sure.

gpderetta 4y ago

The begging back theory doesn't make sense. Sowing discontent and suspicion between allies right when some of them are electing Russia-frendly government has more merit. It would be interesting to watch this evolving, if it wasn't fucking scary.

ajsnigrutin 4y ago
> when some of them are electing Russia-frendly government What's wrong with that? I mean... we're either a democracy, and people choose their own government, or we're being governed by some other external force not obeying the wishes of the people.... if italy choses to be friendly with the russians, their people wanted that, so why not?
- mmastrac 4y ago
  You can't really state that without bringing up the proven fact that the Russians have been running pro-Russian, as well as divisive campaigns all across the world.
  - redeeman 4y ago
    so... russia runs a few ad campaigns and we abolish democracy... that is, if the wrong side wins?
    - mmastrac 4y ago
      That's... not even close to what I was saying at all.
  - ajsnigrutin 4y ago
    You have a same bunch of politicians in and out of parliament, while people are going through locdowns, massive rinting of money, with scraps going to the people, lockdowns, record inflation and energy crisis, while those same politicians get paid more and more plus they steal even more, so people want some kind of change, any change, just to get rid of the current ones... but no, it's the russians and their facebook posts, sure.