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With all due respect, I don't think you're the one to know what "reasonable people" might object to. Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine if not m

by danssig 15y ago

With all due respect, I don't think you're the one to know what "reasonable people" might object to. Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine if not more-so.

berntb 15y ago
>>Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine You've claimed repeatedly to be serious and only argue facts -- so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar (in addition to your usual personal attacks; chromatic just noted that you're trolling, which you didn't try to contradict). But the real problem for HN isn't bad trolls like you, it is fools like me that feed them. Bye.
- danssig 15y ago
  >so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar Citation needed? >chromatic just noted that you're trolling Is English your native tongue? He quoted me and then claimed a "reasonable" person would be offended. I pointed out that he's a poor choice to make this call. I don't think a reasonable person would be offended at what I said at all. Only an irrational perl fanboy. >But the real problem for HN isn't bad trolls like you, it is fools like me that feed them. I'm not sure "troll" means what you think it does. It doesn't mean someone who has points you don't like but have no good answer for.
  - berntb 15y ago
    That was really funny! >>points you don't like but have no good answer for. Your "arguments" are personal attacks ("the lady doth protest too much", "irrational perl fanboy", etc, etc) and language slams without motivation (see e.g. list by chromatic). You have no serious arguments -- e.g. what would be better than CPAN, Moose or MooseX::Declare. (You probably never used them, since you don't even know the name of Perl, but write "perl".) Thanks for making my weekend, troll.
    - danssig 15y ago
      >Your "arguments" are personal attacks And here is the crux of the issue, as I've stated in the beginning: you're identifying perl as part of who you are (again, read up pg on ID) and taking negative facts or suggestions as personal attacks. An "irrational perl fanboy" (the only part that would be a "personal attack", though generally directed at unnamed persons) is someone who does this. >since you don't even know the name of Perl, but write "perl" lol, I don't know anything about perl because I don't bother myself with your conventions? I don't get why people get sensitive about this triviality. If someone through a fit about people saying LISP instead of lisp or Lisp I would assume they were probably retarded. Ironically, I probably know perl better than you do. Have you ever written any XS code? >Thanks for making my weekend, troll. Again with the personal attacks. Honestly, looking back at this thread you stand out to me as more of a troll. Just as you did in that thread where pg called you out on it.
      - berntb 15y ago
        So the only way you can answer accusations of being a troll and just doing (personal) attacks, insults and lies -- is more insults and you have no serious arguments to point at.
        berntb 15y ago
        OK danssig, -- to sum up this garbage: I took one of your lies and insults (that you had made any "points" I couldn't answer) and you only had more insults and lies. Enough. Seriously, some advice -- it is common for some to let out steam by being an asshole to people on the Internet, but your lies and insults doesn't seem like healthy behavior. You should check if you need professional help with whatever ails you.
        danssig 15y ago
        That's hilarious. From your behavior in this thread I'm pretty convinced that you have problems that could use professional help. I'm telling you I see a problem, where I see the problem (you see perl as part of who you are) and you see that as an insult. Or maybe you were even calling my bit about not caring how perl is spelled as an insult?
  - chromatic 15y ago
    He quoted me and then claimed a "reasonable" person would be offended. That's not what I wrote; you're putting words in my mouth. Even if, as you imply, my brain has been so irreparably damaged by my experience using Perl (among other languages) that I am incapable of rationality, that's still a disingenuous discussion technique.
    - danssig 15y ago
      >I think this is the kind of talk to which reasonable people might object. So if you weren't saying a "reasonable person" would be offended what were you saying exactly? And you accuse me of using "disingenuous discussion techniques"? This is the same kind of intellectual dishonesty people hate Micheal Moore for. Put some strange part in the movie, which is directing the audience to an obvious conclusion and then claim people are "putting words in my mouth" when they point it out because he never said the specific words.

by danssig 15y ago

With all due respect, I don't think you're the one to know what "reasonable people" might object to. Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine if not more-so.

berntb 15y ago

>>Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine You've claimed repeatedly to be serious and only argue facts -- so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar (in addition to your usual personal attacks; chromatic just noted that you're trolling, which you didn't try to contradict). But the real problem for HN isn't bad trolls like you, it is fools like me that feed them. Bye.

danssig 15y ago
>so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar Citation needed? >chromatic just noted that you're trolling Is English your native tongue? He quoted me and then claimed a "reasonable" person would be offended. I pointed out that he's a poor choice to make this call. I don't think a reasonable person would be offended at what I said at all. Only an irrational perl fanboy. >But the real problem for HN isn't bad trolls like you, it is fools like me that feed them. I'm not sure "troll" means what you think it does. It doesn't mean someone who has points you don't like but have no good answer for.
- berntb 15y ago
  That was really funny! >>points you don't like but have no good answer for. Your "arguments" are personal attacks ("the lady doth protest too much", "irrational perl fanboy", etc, etc) and language slams without motivation (see e.g. list by chromatic). You have no serious arguments -- e.g. what would be better than CPAN, Moose or MooseX::Declare. (You probably never used them, since you don't even know the name of Perl, but write "perl".) Thanks for making my weekend, troll.
  - danssig 15y ago
    >Your "arguments" are personal attacks And here is the crux of the issue, as I've stated in the beginning: you're identifying perl as part of who you are (again, read up pg on ID) and taking negative facts or suggestions as personal attacks. An "irrational perl fanboy" (the only part that would be a "personal attack", though generally directed at unnamed persons) is someone who does this. >since you don't even know the name of Perl, but write "perl" lol, I don't know anything about perl because I don't bother myself with your conventions? I don't get why people get sensitive about this triviality. If someone through a fit about people saying LISP instead of lisp or Lisp I would assume they were probably retarded. Ironically, I probably know perl better than you do. Have you ever written any XS code? >Thanks for making my weekend, troll. Again with the personal attacks. Honestly, looking back at this thread you stand out to me as more of a troll. Just as you did in that thread where pg called you out on it.
    - berntb 15y ago
      So the only way you can answer accusations of being a troll and just doing (personal) attacks, insults and lies -- is more insults and you have no serious arguments to point at.
      - berntb 15y ago
        OK danssig, -- to sum up this garbage: I took one of your lies and insults (that you had made any "points" I couldn't answer) and you only had more insults and lies. Enough. Seriously, some advice -- it is common for some to let out steam by being an asshole to people on the Internet, but your lies and insults doesn't seem like healthy behavior. You should check if you need professional help with whatever ails you.
        danssig 15y ago
        That's hilarious. From your behavior in this thread I'm pretty convinced that you have problems that could use professional help. I'm telling you I see a problem, where I see the problem (you see perl as part of who you are) and you see that as an insult. Or maybe you were even calling my bit about not caring how perl is spelled as an insult?
- chromatic 15y ago
  He quoted me and then claimed a "reasonable" person would be offended. That's not what I wrote; you're putting words in my mouth. Even if, as you imply, my brain has been so irreparably damaged by my experience using Perl (among other languages) that I am incapable of rationality, that's still a disingenuous discussion technique.
  - danssig 15y ago
    >I think this is the kind of talk to which reasonable people might object. So if you weren't saying a "reasonable person" would be offended what were you saying exactly? And you accuse me of using "disingenuous discussion techniques"? This is the same kind of intellectual dishonesty people hate Micheal Moore for. Put some strange part in the movie, which is directing the audience to an obvious conclusion and then claim people are "putting words in my mouth" when they point it out because he never said the specific words.