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I wonder how much they would have made without Youtube. If they had to host/stream the videos themselves, didn't have magical algorithms to push a % of viewers

I wonder how much they would have made without Youtube. If they had to host/stream the videos themselves, didn't have magical algorithms to push a % of viewers to them, had to market and discover their own audience completely on their own, had to sort out ads/subscriptions themselves, etc.

seydor 4y ago
34M video/page views at the very very least, how much would it make You re leaving out the part that without youtube, users would be seeking out this content, like they did with blogs before facebook. I think he should do that. Host his own content and use youtube for trailers only, a-la onlyfans
- judge2020 4y ago
  > without youtube, users would be seeking out this content, like they did with blogs before facebook. Would they really though? His top viewed videos are "Why the Soviet Computer Failed" and "What Eating the Rich Did for Japan". If those were headlines for a personally-hosted video blog, the biggest group I can see eating that up is the Twitter mob, which, all things considered, doesn't generate much value and is unlikely to translate into a dedicated follower base. In addition, those are kind of two different interest groups: I'd imagine less than 50% of people interested in the Soviet Computer topic are interested in viewing/reading a pro-"eat the rich" content piece. With YouTube, their recommendations allow the user to only be fed the content that correlates with what they want to see (and this is more apparent in other parts of YouTube, eg. Channel Awesome[0] where anything that's not in their Nostalgia Critic or Untitled Review Show series tends to get comparatively few views). 0: https://www.youtube.com/c/ChannelAwesome/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/ChannelAwesome/videos
  - seydor 4y ago
    > doesn't generate much value and is unlikely to translate into a dedicated follower base It seems to work for 'onlyfaners' who use twitter and instagram to advertise their content
    - JCharante 4y ago
      I think that type of media has a higher conversion rate
- macintux 4y ago
  I think you’re wildly underestimating the value of centralized discovery with a heavy user base.
  - seydor 4y ago
    Was blog content not being read/discovered before social media? IIRC the advertisement CPMs were higher back then, which means it sold well, too
    - rchaud 4y ago
      That was then, this is now. CPMs fell through the floor years ago. Personal Blogs aren't discoverable on the web anymore because corporate blogspam knows how to do SEO much better and in much greater volume.
      - seydor 4y ago
        > CPMs fell through the floor years ago. yet advertising spending did not
spamizbad 4y ago
Considering merely having an algorithm not recommend your channel is equated with censorship by many producers, I assume it stalls your growth and possibly even drops your views significantly with existing subscribers.

seydor 4y ago

34M video/page views at the very very least, how much would it make You re leaving out the part that without youtube, users would be seeking out this content, like they did with blogs before facebook. I think he should do that. Host his own content and use youtube for trailers only, a-la onlyfans

judge2020 4y ago
> without youtube, users would be seeking out this content, like they did with blogs before facebook. Would they really though? His top viewed videos are "Why the Soviet Computer Failed" and "What Eating the Rich Did for Japan". If those were headlines for a personally-hosted video blog, the biggest group I can see eating that up is the Twitter mob, which, all things considered, doesn't generate much value and is unlikely to translate into a dedicated follower base. In addition, those are kind of two different interest groups: I'd imagine less than 50% of people interested in the Soviet Computer topic are interested in viewing/reading a pro-"eat the rich" content piece. With YouTube, their recommendations allow the user to only be fed the content that correlates with what they want to see (and this is more apparent in other parts of YouTube, eg. Channel Awesome[0] where anything that's not in their Nostalgia Critic or Untitled Review Show series tends to get comparatively few views). 0: https://www.youtube.com/c/ChannelAwesome/videos https://www.youtube.com/c/ChannelAwesome/videos
- seydor 4y ago
  > doesn't generate much value and is unlikely to translate into a dedicated follower base It seems to work for 'onlyfaners' who use twitter and instagram to advertise their content
  - JCharante 4y ago
    I think that type of media has a higher conversion rate
macintux 4y ago
I think you’re wildly underestimating the value of centralized discovery with a heavy user base.
- seydor 4y ago
  Was blog content not being read/discovered before social media? IIRC the advertisement CPMs were higher back then, which means it sold well, too
  - rchaud 4y ago
    That was then, this is now. CPMs fell through the floor years ago. Personal Blogs aren't discoverable on the web anymore because corporate blogspam knows how to do SEO much better and in much greater volume.
    - seydor 4y ago
      > CPMs fell through the floor years ago. yet advertising spending did not

spamizbad 4y ago

Considering merely having an algorithm not recommend your channel is equated with censorship by many producers, I assume it stalls your growth and possibly even drops your views significantly with existing subscribers.