Hall isn't who I'm talking about, more the general cultural movement around defining things as, and avoiding, ultra processed foods. It resembles a lot of other

Hall isn't who I'm talking about, more the general cultural movement around defining things as, and avoiding, ultra processed foods. It resembles a lot of other niche, contradictory diet movements I've seen, all backed by at least a handful of studies (and almost always with some well spoken PhD at the forefront), whether it's this, ketogenic metabolizing, avoiding poly unsaturated fatty acids, multi day fasts with supplements and salts, intermittent fasting, etc. These generally tend to appeal to, and also cause massive schisms among the aforementioned granola mom types, much like say, how babies and kids sleep should be handled. The reason I don't consider these movements all that valuable or useful is that they all seem to don the cloak of empiricism post hoc, after they have decided what they believe, and when it comes to pushing the idea, any relevant study will do, because the research result is effectively a marketing headline, similar to the original article for this thread. And while Hall may be somewhat convincing, if I lived my life by the advice of every convincing talk I'd ever heard, I'd have to follow a lot of mutually exclusive advice, and with regards to dieting, between Kevin Hall, Ray Peat, and David Sinclair, I'm not sure they'd let me eat enough calorie dense food to survive.