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The top menu bar is a waste of screen real estate, even on a Mac - an outdated 1980s concept that was cool back in the day, but no longer (alongside the single

The top menu bar is a waste of screen real estate, even on a Mac - an outdated 1980s concept that was cool back in the day, but no longer (alongside the single button mouse). If you auto hide it, it becomes troublesome to click on browser tabs as a slight error on pointing to the new tab will make the bar appear and push everything down. I understand that many people like the macOS UI concept, but I find standard Windows far superior, allowing more screen real estate especially on small screens. Same comment applies to the icons on the bottom bar further wasting my screen's limited height (although that can be customized). My main work computer is a M1 Macbook Pro and I'd LOVE to be able to simply use Windows/Linux for better productivity.

kybernetikos 4y ago
I always liked the RISC OS way of doing it where there was a mouse button dedicated to bring up the menu for the current app. There's no need to show the menu unless someone is trying to interact with it.
herbst 4y ago
Any fixed OS menu bar is basically just wasted space.
- toast0 4y ago
  Auto-hide/reveal is worse. It's a dead zone where you can't have interactive elements, because it's too hard to get the pointer on top without triggering the bar.
eterevsky 4y ago
It's useful because it is showing important stuff like clock, battery and keyboard layout. And if you are already using this space, you can also fit the program menu there and save some space. I agree about the app icons. Moving them to the left is the first thing I do on any Mac I'm using.
deelly 4y ago
Huh, thats why I always autohide menu bar and move it to the left side of screen. This way I will not open it accidentally while scrolling or by clicking on title bar/tabs of windows.
Mikeb85 4y ago
Or you do it the Gnome way and have a thin top bar all the time but hide the dock and use the keyboard most of the time for opening and switching apps.

kybernetikos 4y ago

I always liked the RISC OS way of doing it where there was a mouse button dedicated to bring up the menu for the current app. There's no need to show the menu unless someone is trying to interact with it.

herbst 4y ago

Any fixed OS menu bar is basically just wasted space.

toast0 4y ago
Auto-hide/reveal is worse. It's a dead zone where you can't have interactive elements, because it's too hard to get the pointer on top without triggering the bar.

eterevsky 4y ago

It's useful because it is showing important stuff like clock, battery and keyboard layout. And if you are already using this space, you can also fit the program menu there and save some space. I agree about the app icons. Moving them to the left is the first thing I do on any Mac I'm using.

deelly 4y ago

Huh, thats why I always autohide menu bar and move it to the left side of screen. This way I will not open it accidentally while scrolling or by clicking on title bar/tabs of windows.

Mikeb85 4y ago

Or you do it the Gnome way and have a thin top bar all the time but hide the dock and use the keyboard most of the time for opening and switching apps.