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True. I really appreciate Don Syme for not adding too much to F#. It's a beautiful precise language as it is. I really don't like what has happened to C# is th

True. I really appreciate Don Syme for not adding too much to F#. It's a beautiful precise language as it is. I really don't like what has happened to C# is the past few years where features are just added blindly it seems. Current C# looks nothing like C# code from a few years ago and that's bad IMO.

wizofaus 4y ago
Example? The biggest addition to C# recently is non-nullable references, which was long overdue even though I haven't had a proper opportunity to use yet, but they don't even change the syntax of the language.
- pjmlp 4y ago
  You missed the pattern matching, default interface methods, records (class and struct based), and all the low level features to be able to write C++ like code in C#, code generators, global usings, implicit main class, static lambdas, abstract interface methods for operators,.... On the horizon, discriminated unions are still being talked about, and more C++ performance like features.
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- JaggerJo 4y ago
  I bunch of stuff was added in the recent years. Just a few examples: Pattern Matching https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/csharp-8#more-patterns-in-more-places https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/cs... Non destructive mutation https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/csharp-9#nondestructive-mutation https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/cs... Null-coalescing assignment https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/csharp-8#null-coalescing-assignment https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/cs...
  - rattray 4y ago
    (your last link should have been https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/csharp-8#null-coalescing-assignment https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/cs...) I don't work in C#, but I must say, these seem like great features to me, and not too crufty/bloaty at all. Scrolling through the other recent feature additions, they all look like things that would make a language feel smoother rather than more noisy. But again, IANAC#D.
    - JaggerJo 4y ago
      Might be just me, but in larger teams it's annoying because not everyone knows the most recent features. I wrote C# daily before I switched to F# ~3 years ago and I sometimes struggle reading "modern" C# code. In C# you now often have multiple ways of doing the same thing.
  - wizofaus 4y ago
    Pattern Matching was 5 years ago (and I use it all the time, it's great). I have to admit I've not come across many C# 9.0 features in the wild yet, and I might double take if I saw them used liberally throughout a codebase. The null-coalescing assignment I'm a bit skeptical about the value of, or at least, it doesn't fit with my preferred style of coding (sticking to non-nullable types where possible, and generally avoiding variable reassignment).

wizofaus 4y ago

Example? The biggest addition to C# recently is non-nullable references, which was long overdue even though I haven't had a proper opportunity to use yet, but they don't even change the syntax of the language.

pjmlp 4y ago
You missed the pattern matching, default interface methods, records (class and struct based), and all the low level features to be able to write C++ like code in C#, code generators, global usings, implicit main class, static lambdas, abstract interface methods for operators,.... On the horizon, discriminated unions are still being talked about, and more C++ performance like features.
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JaggerJo 4y ago
I bunch of stuff was added in the recent years. Just a few examples: Pattern Matching https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/csharp-8#more-patterns-in-more-places https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/cs... Non destructive mutation https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/csharp-9#nondestructive-mutation https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/cs... Null-coalescing assignment https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/csharp-8#null-coalescing-assignment https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/cs...
- rattray 4y ago
  (your last link should have been https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/csharp-8#null-coalescing-assignment https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/whats-new/cs...) I don't work in C#, but I must say, these seem like great features to me, and not too crufty/bloaty at all. Scrolling through the other recent feature additions, they all look like things that would make a language feel smoother rather than more noisy. But again, IANAC#D.
  - JaggerJo 4y ago
    Might be just me, but in larger teams it's annoying because not everyone knows the most recent features. I wrote C# daily before I switched to F# ~3 years ago and I sometimes struggle reading "modern" C# code. In C# you now often have multiple ways of doing the same thing.
- wizofaus 4y ago
  Pattern Matching was 5 years ago (and I use it all the time, it's great). I have to admit I've not come across many C# 9.0 features in the wild yet, and I might double take if I saw them used liberally throughout a codebase. The null-coalescing assignment I'm a bit skeptical about the value of, or at least, it doesn't fit with my preferred style of coding (sticking to non-nullable types where possible, and generally avoiding variable reassignment).