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One big reason I see why managers are failing is because nobody really helps them to become good managers. When you move from a developer to EM position, very

One big reason I see why managers are failing is because nobody really helps them to become good managers. When you move from a developer to EM position, very often all the support you get is "good luck!" and a pat on the back. I've worked at a 1,000-people software development company where there was 0 training or even proper onboarding for managers, there was no community for EMs so that they can help each other, there was absolutely no effort to help managers improve. As a developer it was much easier for me to improve my skills - I worked with other programmers, saw their code, they reviewed my code, we programmed together. When I was a mid-level dev a single pairing session with a principal developer opened my eyes to so many things. As a manager I lack such opportunities, and employers ignore it.

roenxi 4y ago
The funnel for promotions has started to get thin at this level, and leadership positions select strongly for people who like being promoted. Individuals might perceive the situation more collaboratively. As a body though this is a group where every individual is competing and unlikely to spend time educating others who are, effectively, rivals.
c-linkage 4y ago
Managing people is a specialized skill. Both employees and employers should require that those in management positions have the necessary training and credentials to perform the task. This means either taking a specialized management curriculum at university or being put through a comprehensive management training course. It takes four or five years of education at a University to get an engineering degree, yet businesses somehow find it acceptable to make anyone a manager regardless of whether they have been trained.
alexanderbenoit 4y ago
I completely agree with this. I've always been curious as to why so many other roles get proper training but not the role of manager, which arguably has an even larger impact. I'm figuring out a way to change this: https://larsen.ai https://larsen.ai

roenxi 4y ago

The funnel for promotions has started to get thin at this level, and leadership positions select strongly for people who like being promoted. Individuals might perceive the situation more collaboratively. As a body though this is a group where every individual is competing and unlikely to spend time educating others who are, effectively, rivals.

c-linkage 4y ago

Managing people is a specialized skill. Both employees and employers should require that those in management positions have the necessary training and credentials to perform the task. This means either taking a specialized management curriculum at university or being put through a comprehensive management training course. It takes four or five years of education at a University to get an engineering degree, yet businesses somehow find it acceptable to make anyone a manager regardless of whether they have been trained.

alexanderbenoit 4y ago

I completely agree with this. I've always been curious as to why so many other roles get proper training but not the role of manager, which arguably has an even larger impact. I'm figuring out a way to change this: https://larsen.ai https://larsen.ai