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And when? Public transport is a strawman if it does not exist in sufficient quality and quantity to replace all personal transportation and it takes decades to

by ls15 4y ago

And when? Public transport is a strawman if it does not exist in sufficient quality and quantity to replace all personal transportation and it takes decades to get to that capacity. I am writing from Berlin. We enjoy one of the best public transport networks in the world, but it is still not affordable enough for many and there are still good reasons to own a car in Berlin.

fyvhbhn 4y ago
It's not a straw man. I have my doubts you know what you are talking about. EVs for everyone doesn't work, and ICEVs even less so. People who really need it for their life style will either have to change their life style and habits or pay enough for it. And with respect to the economy: supply and demand will solve it
- ls15 4y ago
  > It's not a straw man. What I meant to express was that the GP was making a fallacious argument themselves by claiming that mine was fallacious when it is not. Take personal transportation out of the equation without sufficient replacement and the economy (and quality of life, as well as social peace) will take a massive hit, because so many people rely on it for their needs. Transitions to better models are great if they are planned and executed well. Suddenly pricing people out of their lifes, because required planning and investment 20 years ago was avoided is not a great way to proceed if you value social peace.