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>>We need some actually cheap EVs, so probably models that are not so full of electronics like the current ones. Just some basic models without self-driving hoc
by gambiting 4y ago
>>We need some actually cheap EVs, so probably models that are not so full of electronics like the current ones. Just some basic models without self-driving hocus pocus and futuristic bling.
Those exist, just buy yourself an e-Up/Citigo EV/Mii Electric, it's very cheap, it's very basic, has 160 miles range, it even comes with a normal analogue cluster. Or another cheap choice is an MG ZS EV or EV5 - both fantastic cars, both pretty basic without a whole lot of tech.
- ls15 4y agoMore affordable than Tesla, but still 10x of the cheap used ICEV that they are competing with. But basic? https://www.just-auto.com/analysis/interior-design-and-technology-seat-mii/ https://www.just-auto.com/analysis/interior-design-and-techn... > The Mii doesn’t offer a built-in touchscreen – not even as an option. Instead, it comes fitted with a smartphone dock located on top of the dash. While it may appear low-tech compared to its rivals, it does the job by allowing the driver to link their phone to the car via two apps: Mii Drive and SEAT Connect. The latter provides remote access and management of the vehicle, so drivers can review driving data, parking position, the vehicle’s status, including doors and lights, manage the charging process via the e-Manager and the ability to control air-conditioning remotely from the app. How to repair this at home if it breaks? Can I make sure that my car does not send any data to the manufacturer?
- gambiting 4y agoI mean, I have the e-UP so I can answer any questions you have I suppose. Yes, you can make sure the car doesn't communicate with the VW servers - either through the option in the menus, or if you don't trust that just pull out the SIM card below the dash. >>How to repair this at home if it breaks? If what breaks? >>but still 10x of the cheap used ICEV they are competing with I'm so confused why you say that a brand new EV is competing with a decade old petrol car(because only those will be 10x cheaper)? Like.....when I was car shopping it hasn't even crossed my mind to look at cars that old. I want a warranty and I want a very basic EV car - a decade old petrol car fulfils neither requirement.
- ls15 4y agoAny of it, really. There are cars that you can fix at home with a hammer, but this is getting rare, unfortunately. > I'm so confused why you say that a brand new EV is competing with a decade old petrol car If people want to buy the cheapest vehicle, then they are limited to ICEV, because the cheapest EV is much more expensive.
- gambiting 4y ago>>Any of it, really. I mean, sure, but then the argument is that this car literally has a battery, EV motor, one ECU, cabling for the brakes and the AC, and....that's about it? Yes you won't open the battery or the motor in your driveway, but other parts are no more complicated than in a normal car, and there's very very very few of them. I know some people who have already put 100kkm on these cars and the only thing they had to change was tyres - even the brakes don't wear out at all because you just use regenerative breaking. >>If people want to buy the cheapest vehicle, then they are limited to ICEV, because the cheapest EV is much more expensive. Yes, but why were you comparing a brand new EV to a decade old petrol car? >>There are cars that you can fix at home with a hammer I just want to add to this - I think maybe that is true, but that must be 0.00001% of drivers who have that ability, if not less. I used to have a Fiat Cinquecento, you couldn't imagine a simpler car(mechanically), it didn't really have electric anything on it other than lights, and I still wouldn't have any clue how to fix an engine issue for instance. I could replace the brakes or suspension elements myself, but I can do that in the e-Up too.