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The big news is that the carriers forced it onto almost all smartphones (Android, Blackberry, iPhone). The blame needs to be pinned on them.

fpgeek 15y ago
I'm curious about which carriers. Are we just talking about US carriers or carriers worldwide? I'd think "Carrier IQ" wouldn't fly under stricter European privacy laws (even if it is OK in the US, which some people say is an open question). Is that right?
- Synaesthesia 15y ago
  Absolutely. That was the very question I thought of as I posted that. I have a suspicion it's US carriers.
  - shareme 15y ago
    in fact its probably the same exact carrier whose parent was given the right to spy on amercians for the us government after laws were broken..
  - Achshar 15y ago
    Well I live in India and i will look for CareerIQ in my bro's galaxy. The handsets here are contract free and GSM.
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- untog 15y ago
  How does that work with the iPhone, I wonder? Android phones have custom firmwares for each carrier, but I thought that everyone downloaded the same update package in iTunes. Am I wrong?
- quanticle 15y ago
  Well, I don't know which carriers have installed CarrierIQ on their phones, but according to this: http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2602532/verizon-carrier-iq-denial http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2602532/verizon-carrier-iq... Verizon denies using or ever having used CarrierIQ.
nutjob123 15y ago
We need to specify WHICH carriers forced it onto smartphones. Verizon is the biggest carrier in the US and they don't use carrier iq. (although they do put a ton of crap on phones) http://gigaom.com/2011/12/01/verizon-no-carrieriq-no-way/ http://gigaom.com/2011/12/01/verizon-no-carrieriq-no-way/
WestCoastJustin 15y ago
I have a Samsung GalaxyS running Android on Rogers (rogers.com) up in Canada and there is no CarrierIQ installed. Maybe we need to create a spreadsheet so we can track which phones / providers have this installed.

fpgeek 15y ago

I'm curious about which carriers. Are we just talking about US carriers or carriers worldwide? I'd think "Carrier IQ" wouldn't fly under stricter European privacy laws (even if it is OK in the US, which some people say is an open question). Is that right?

Synaesthesia 15y ago
Absolutely. That was the very question I thought of as I posted that. I have a suspicion it's US carriers.
- shareme 15y ago
  in fact its probably the same exact carrier whose parent was given the right to spy on amercians for the us government after laws were broken..
- Achshar 15y ago
  Well I live in India and i will look for CareerIQ in my bro's galaxy. The handsets here are contract free and GSM.
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untog 15y ago
How does that work with the iPhone, I wonder? Android phones have custom firmwares for each carrier, but I thought that everyone downloaded the same update package in iTunes. Am I wrong?
quanticle 15y ago
Well, I don't know which carriers have installed CarrierIQ on their phones, but according to this: http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2602532/verizon-carrier-iq-denial http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2602532/verizon-carrier-iq... Verizon denies using or ever having used CarrierIQ.

nutjob123 15y ago

We need to specify WHICH carriers forced it onto smartphones. Verizon is the biggest carrier in the US and they don't use carrier iq. (although they do put a ton of crap on phones) http://gigaom.com/2011/12/01/verizon-no-carrieriq-no-way/ http://gigaom.com/2011/12/01/verizon-no-carrieriq-no-way/

WestCoastJustin 15y ago

I have a Samsung GalaxyS running Android on Rogers (rogers.com) up in Canada and there is no CarrierIQ installed. Maybe we need to create a spreadsheet so we can track which phones / providers have this installed.