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What's the possibility of a dental implant as a cheating device?

lisper 4y ago
As an electrical engineer currently in the process of getting a dental implant, I would say it's definitely doable. But it would present a pretty serious packaging challenge, particularly the power supply. [UPDATE] Turns out you can get dental implant hardware on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/272267166511 https://www.ebay.com/itm/272267166511
- rowanG077 4y ago
  Considering it only needs to be powered for a single match it seems very possible to me with over the counter components.
  - lisper 4y ago
    It's a pretty straightforward calculation, which I don't feel like doing right now. But I think Stockfish is going to be pretty power-hungry at the grandmaster level.
    - CamperBob2 4y ago
      I'd be thinking more "radio" than "computer."
    - bigyikes 4y ago
      What about a wireless receiver instead? I have some smart light switches in my house that don’t contain batteries and aren’t wired to mains. They’re powered purely by the force of pressing the switch. A bite-powered receiver might not even need batteries. Okay, maybe I’m getting too crazy?
      - lisper 4y ago
        A receiver that size is borderline trivial but extremely risky because the transmission could be detected.
      - InsomniacL 4y ago
        what about powerless? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)
- InsomniacL 4y ago
  In 1945 the Soviet Union gifted a wall hung artwork to the USA embassy which passively transmitted audio signal from the room with no power supply or active electronics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device) in the last 77 years, I imagine this type and similar technology will be much more miniaturised and effective.
  - lisper 4y ago
    > no power supply No internal power supply. Very important distinction. "The device, a passive cavity resonator, became active only when a radio signal of the correct frequency was sent to the device from an external transmitter." But the Thing was a transmitter. A receiver could be entirely passive and very small. It could easily fit in a dental implant. (There have been reports of people hearing AM radio broadcasts through their fillings.) But the risk of detection would be very high.

As an electrical engineer currently in the process of getting a dental implant, I would say it's definitely doable. But it would present a pretty serious packaging challenge, particularly the power supply. [UPDATE] Turns out you can get dental implant hardware on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/272267166511 https://www.ebay.com/itm/272267166511

rowanG077 4y ago
Considering it only needs to be powered for a single match it seems very possible to me with over the counter components.
- lisper 4y ago
  It's a pretty straightforward calculation, which I don't feel like doing right now. But I think Stockfish is going to be pretty power-hungry at the grandmaster level.
  - CamperBob2 4y ago
    I'd be thinking more "radio" than "computer."
  - bigyikes 4y ago
    What about a wireless receiver instead? I have some smart light switches in my house that don’t contain batteries and aren’t wired to mains. They’re powered purely by the force of pressing the switch. A bite-powered receiver might not even need batteries. Okay, maybe I’m getting too crazy?
    - lisper 4y ago
      A receiver that size is borderline trivial but extremely risky because the transmission could be detected.
    - InsomniacL 4y ago
      what about powerless? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)
InsomniacL 4y ago
In 1945 the Soviet Union gifted a wall hung artwork to the USA embassy which passively transmitted audio signal from the room with no power supply or active electronics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device) in the last 77 years, I imagine this type and similar technology will be much more miniaturised and effective.
- lisper 4y ago
  > no power supply No internal power supply. Very important distinction. "The device, a passive cavity resonator, became active only when a radio signal of the correct frequency was sent to the device from an external transmitter." But the Thing was a transmitter. A receiver could be entirely passive and very small. It could easily fit in a dental implant. (There have been reports of people hearing AM radio broadcasts through their fillings.) But the risk of detection would be very high.