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"Things are tough right now, but once we close this deal then we'll be in a much more comfortable position. Your role on this is critical to our success." Is t

by warent 4y ago

"Things are tough right now, but once we close this deal then we'll be in a much more comfortable position. Your role on this is critical to our success." Is this not a reasonable way of approaching it? It seems to be simultaneously honest and empowering. What lie is necessary? EDIT: slight revision

random314 4y ago
Compulsive liars cannot change their habits.
- sahila 4y ago
  And gasp you may have to reward your worker because they truly are that valuable instead of reaping all the benefit for the cto.
  - citizenpaul 4y ago
    Thats mostly a CEO trait. Remember CTO,CFO,COO,CIO, ect are all just jobs. You ultimately report to the CEO, whom ultimately reports to the investors,stakeholders, capital partners, b2b relationships and so on. For the record I gave 100% of bonuses I had awarded to my staff and 0% to myself the entire tenure.
    - random314 4y ago
      Who awards bonuses to themselves?!
citizenpaul 4y ago
I wasn't trying to write a business book but what you wrote is fine usually for the senior level employees that get how business works and probably took the job with the understanding of the weight of their position. However you will also have fickle entry/low/mid level employees that don't have the maturity to accept the realities of the business world.
- random314 4y ago
  > However you will also have fickle entry/low/mid level employees You need to read that sentence again. Your comments are very revealing about you and not about CTO level work as you are imagining.
  - citizenpaul 4y ago
    My comments are very revealing about the reality of the work world at mediocre aka most companies. If you get a big enough group of people there are going to be some people with machiavellian tendencies or at least some that read bad advice on the internet about how to get ahead at work and try to apply it with clumsy gusto. You will look like a real fool to your boss the CEO if you are giving information to these type of people and they try to use it for their benefit. I may be painting too dark a picture due to the focus the comments have on a single sentence. Overall I had good relationships with the vast majority of people that worked for me. I know this because I still have contact with most of them even though we have almost no chance of ever working together again. You are deluding yourself if you think there are no bad apples out there or that people having problems in their personal life may try to pull manipulation at work to get ahead or however they see may solve their problems.
    - random314 4y ago
      > You are deluding yourself if you think there are no bad apples out ther Please don't put words into my mouth.

by warent 4y ago

random314 4y ago

Compulsive liars cannot change their habits.

sahila 4y ago
And gasp you may have to reward your worker because they truly are that valuable instead of reaping all the benefit for the cto.
- citizenpaul 4y ago
  Thats mostly a CEO trait. Remember CTO,CFO,COO,CIO, ect are all just jobs. You ultimately report to the CEO, whom ultimately reports to the investors,stakeholders, capital partners, b2b relationships and so on. For the record I gave 100% of bonuses I had awarded to my staff and 0% to myself the entire tenure.
  - random314 4y ago
    Who awards bonuses to themselves?!

citizenpaul 4y ago

I wasn't trying to write a business book but what you wrote is fine usually for the senior level employees that get how business works and probably took the job with the understanding of the weight of their position. However you will also have fickle entry/low/mid level employees that don't have the maturity to accept the realities of the business world.

random314 4y ago
> However you will also have fickle entry/low/mid level employees You need to read that sentence again. Your comments are very revealing about you and not about CTO level work as you are imagining.
- citizenpaul 4y ago
  My comments are very revealing about the reality of the work world at mediocre aka most companies. If you get a big enough group of people there are going to be some people with machiavellian tendencies or at least some that read bad advice on the internet about how to get ahead at work and try to apply it with clumsy gusto. You will look like a real fool to your boss the CEO if you are giving information to these type of people and they try to use it for their benefit. I may be painting too dark a picture due to the focus the comments have on a single sentence. Overall I had good relationships with the vast majority of people that worked for me. I know this because I still have contact with most of them even though we have almost no chance of ever working together again. You are deluding yourself if you think there are no bad apples out there or that people having problems in their personal life may try to pull manipulation at work to get ahead or however they see may solve their problems.
  - random314 4y ago
    > You are deluding yourself if you think there are no bad apples out ther Please don't put words into my mouth.