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Why is it depressing? What struck me about the article is it banging on about postmodernism like it was the be all and end all, where the philosophically traine

Why is it depressing? What struck me about the article is it banging on about postmodernism like it was the be all and end all, where the philosophically trained and inclined have seen for a while now that we're past postmodernism and into something else, which of course needs a label of some kind, that many think should be posthumanism, even though I think post-Capitalism is probably more aligned with where we are, as humans.

PaulHoule 4y ago
I think they tried post-Capitalism in October 1917 and it was a disappointment. I see the post modern situation as depressing because a general theory of progress (e.g. Marxism) or even justice in the abstract (e.g. Rawls or Christianity) doesn't seem possible. There is a "post human" philosophical movement, interested in things like Schwarzenegger's character from The Terminator, but I think the philosopher and I shared an additional meaning equivalent to "extinction". I would point to Reason magazine as an example of people using the word "Reason" to create a frame in which people who believe that people have the right to form unions or that the state should regulate pollution or provision health insurance or public schools. If you withdraw to pure mathematics you'll find Godel, Tarski, Turing proved that there is no salvation in logic. The collapse of master narratives leave us scrambling for meaning, finding some, but with the feeling the apocalypse happened some time ago (1945?) and we are now living in some movie like Mad Max. If there is moral rot in postmodern philosophy it is the moral rot of the age which is documented here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture_of_Narcissism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture_of_Narcissism (big in Japan because Japanese people think it describes the Tokugawa culture) https://www.amazon.com/Cultural-Contradictions-Capitalism-20th-Anniversary/dp/0465014992#customerReviews https://www.amazon.com/Cultural-Contradictions-Capitalism-20... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation

PaulHoule 4y ago

I think they tried post-Capitalism in October 1917 and it was a disappointment. I see the post modern situation as depressing because a general theory of progress (e.g. Marxism) or even justice in the abstract (e.g. Rawls or Christianity) doesn't seem possible. There is a "post human" philosophical movement, interested in things like Schwarzenegger's character from The Terminator, but I think the philosopher and I shared an additional meaning equivalent to "extinction". I would point to Reason magazine as an example of people using the word "Reason" to create a frame in which people who believe that people have the right to form unions or that the state should regulate pollution or provision health insurance or public schools. If you withdraw to pure mathematics you'll find Godel, Tarski, Turing proved that there is no salvation in logic. The collapse of master narratives leave us scrambling for meaning, finding some, but with the feeling the apocalypse happened some time ago (1945?) and we are now living in some movie like Mad Max. If there is moral rot in postmodern philosophy it is the moral rot of the age which is documented here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture_of_Narcissism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture_of_Narcissism (big in Japan because Japanese people think it describes the Tokugawa culture) https://www.amazon.com/Cultural-Contradictions-Capitalism-20th-Anniversary/dp/0465014992#customerReviews https://www.amazon.com/Cultural-Contradictions-Capitalism-20... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation