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I think it boils more down to this: "I was uncomfortable with how he played because he has a history of cheating so I quit" Which is entirely reasonable, if y
by dgritsko 4y ago
I think it boils more down to this:
"I was uncomfortable with how he played because he has a history of cheating so I quit"
Which is entirely reasonable, if you think that cheating is an "existential threat" to chess itself.
- smoldesu 4y agoIf he didn't want to play against him, he shouldn't have already done it weeks ago and then proceed to agree to a rematch, which he doesn't cancel until the last minute. I find it very hard to believe that Magnus only found out about Hans' history after the first move... unless he had someone assisting him in realtime.
- jbaczuk 4y agoit was just part of the rules you can't resign until you play 1 move
- smoldesu 4y agoWithdrawing attendance is also an option, which Carlsen himself says is a possibility he acknowledged. If he wants to follow through on this, we better see some damning evidence. If this entire hubbub was for nothing, the chess community as a whole is going to have egg on their face.
- jbaczuk 4y agoExcept it's impossible to prove non-existence, so it will never reach that point
- unethical_ban 4y agoThe best time to do the right thing is yesterday, the second best time is today. Perhaps a person knows they should have done more sooner, but still chooses to do what they think is right when they make a decision.
- devin 4y agoThey were both under contract at that point, so I don't think there was much choice in the matter.
- addicted 4y agoMagnus is claiming that cheating is widespread and a big problem in chess. Who are all the other cheaters that Magnus has quit against? Why is the only cheater he has publicly made a show of having a problem with in all these years the one who recently beat him OTB playing black?
- Invictus0 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_chess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_chess
- mikepurvis 4y agoI think the statement is a little bit more nuanced than that: "His over the board progress has been unusual, and throughout our game in the Sinquefield Cup I had the impression that he wasn't tense or even fully concentrating on the game in critical positions, while outplaying me as black in a way I think only a handful of players can do." This isn't just "I got weird vibes" or something, this is the professional analysis of someone who has spent a lifetime analysing particular board states, the overall flow of the game, and the psychology of his opponents. He may have his hands tied in terms of what exactly he can say at this time, but the telegraph here is that he suspects cheating because of specific, observable factors in how the prior game(s) went down. And those factors may ultimately be too subtle to be judged by anyone other than a jury of other top-tier professional chess players, but ultimately that doesn't matter, if it's enough to trigger a more thorough investigation then concrete evidence will emerge one way or the other and show Carlsen to be right or wrong on his hunch.
- roflyear 4y agoHans is a super weird dude. And Magnus was worried going into the event.
- roflyear 4y agoCheating ONLINE - very much a different game, really, I would argue.