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The real problem here is the idiotic partitioning of the App Store into countries. This causes so much trouble. Companies restrict their apps without thinking a

by jwr 4y ago

The real problem here is the idiotic partitioning of the App Store into countries. This causes so much trouble. Companies restrict their apps without thinking about it much, and customers have to jump through hoops to access these apps (or just not use them at all). Case in point: just try to visit the US with an EU-based iPhone. Apps like Starbucks, Target, Ralphs, Vons, and many many others will be inaccessible to you. You'd think we'd be past those ancient divisions in this day and age.

ceejayoz 4y ago
> Case in point: just try to visit the US with an EU-based iPhone. Apps like Starbucks, Target, Ralphs, Vons, and many many others will be inaccessible to you. Just had the same experience in Australia; the local grocery store there had an app to figure out which aisle things were in, but I wasn't allowed to download it from the US store.
snowwrestler 4y ago
Hasn’t the EU repeatedly ruled that personal data collected from EU citizens in EU jurisdictions cannot legally pass into U.S. jurisdiction? Partitioning online stores geographically seems like a way to deliver such compliance.
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  No, the EU has not ruled that; the EU has ruled that it requires the user's consent. https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rules-business-and-organisations/obligations/what-rules-apply-if-my-organisation-transfers-data-outside-eu_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo... > if a transfer of personal data is envisaged to a third country that isn’t the subject of an Adequacy Decision and if appropriate safeguards are absent, a transfer can be made based on a number of derogations for specific situations for example, where an individual has explicitly consented to the proposed transfer after having been provided with all necessary information about the risks associated with the transfer.
- jwr 4y ago
  This argument is often used as an excuse. What "personal data"? I just want to browse and find the products available at local Target stores. Or buy coffee with a gift card.

by jwr 4y ago

ceejayoz 4y ago

> Case in point: just try to visit the US with an EU-based iPhone. Apps like Starbucks, Target, Ralphs, Vons, and many many others will be inaccessible to you. Just had the same experience in Australia; the local grocery store there had an app to figure out which aisle things were in, but I wasn't allowed to download it from the US store.

snowwrestler 4y ago

Hasn’t the EU repeatedly ruled that personal data collected from EU citizens in EU jurisdictions cannot legally pass into U.S. jurisdiction? Partitioning online stores geographically seems like a way to deliver such compliance.

ceejayoz 4y ago
No, the EU has not ruled that; the EU has ruled that it requires the user's consent. https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rules-business-and-organisations/obligations/what-rules-apply-if-my-organisation-transfers-data-outside-eu_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/refo... > if a transfer of personal data is envisaged to a third country that isn’t the subject of an Adequacy Decision and if appropriate safeguards are absent, a transfer can be made based on a number of derogations for specific situations for example, where an individual has explicitly consented to the proposed transfer after having been provided with all necessary information about the risks associated with the transfer.
jwr 4y ago
This argument is often used as an excuse. What "personal data"? I just want to browse and find the products available at local Target stores. Or buy coffee with a gift card.