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> What is the point of giving stock priced on the vesting day? It has no chance to go up or down between the grant and vesting date when it is sellable. It woul
by a4isms 4y ago
> What is the point of giving stock priced on the vesting day? It has no chance to go up or down between the grant and vesting date when it is sellable. It would be the same as a cash bonus with an X year delay.
An excellent question, somewhat epitomized by the late Mitch Hedberg’s joke: “I think a gift certificate is a bad gift. You take money that is good everywhere…” Same here, it’s no better than cash, only it’s a PITA to convert it to cash if you want cash.
That being said, there are a few scenarios I have seen that fit the pattern:
1. Some companies have an ESPP program where some cash is deducted from each pay and placed in escrow. At regular intervals, the accumulated money is turned into shares at market value, and the employee receives the shares. There is usually a modest discount involved, e.g. 15%. If the employee sells the day the shares vest, they harvest 15% of the value less taxes. Or the employee can HODL, as they see fit.
Even without a discount, some employees may prefer an ESPP to making their own investments in the company stock. There is the convenience of having the money deducted at source, many people find that an easier way to save than relying on discipline.
2. The company is cash-poor and pays some comp in stock because they have shares in their treasury. One can understand why some companies would want to do this, without agreeing that employees would prefer this to cash.
- deadmanwalking 4y agoI think RSUs are better than cash. In the UK I have a choice, take my bonus as cash and pay a hefty amount for of tax, or take the same pre tax amount as RSUs hold it for a minimum 5 years so that it’s tax free.
- crazygringo 4y agoI don't think that's correct -- everything I can find online says that in the UK you pay income tax on RSU's no matter how long you hold them. The only technicality is whether they're "subject to forfeiture" in which case you pay the tax after 5 years, or not, in which case you pay the tax upon vesting. But no matter what you're always paying income tax. You may not be as aware of it though, since the company that grants you the RSU's will generally sell a portion of them in order to cover your taxes before you even receive them. (That is standard in the US too -- e.g. 50 units vest but only ~32 show up in your brokerage account.)