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Any school library has limited space and must decide what books to stock. I don't know if the book in question is good or not. I will say that public schools sh

Any school library has limited space and must decide what books to stock. I don't know if the book in question is good or not. I will say that public schools should not be supporting clubs that discriminate on the basis of sex, as the Girls Who Code organization does. My daughter has been able to participate, but my son has not, which is unfair.

0xbadcafebee 4y ago
> public schools should not be supporting clubs that discriminate on the basis of sex Then they must ban football, baseball, basketball, tennis, soccer, etc
- Bostonian 4y ago
  Public schools are required by Title IX to have roughly equivalent athletic programs for boys and girls. There are girls' teams for all of the sports you listed, except football. There is no Boys Who Code club at our school or any other.
  - 0xbadcafebee 4y ago
    First you say there should be no sex discrimination. Then I say, what about this other thing that has sex discrimination. And you reply, well, that sex discrimination is justified, because reasons. So you already are fine with sex discrimination as long as there is a good reason for it. > There is no Boys Who Code club at our school or any other. Why do you think that is?
jleyank 4y ago
evgen 4y ago
This is not a club, it is a series of books. If you or your son are so threatened by the idea that the main characters of a series of books about problem-solving using coding skills (and teaching of same) can be girls then I think the one who has a problem here is you.
- nickff 4y ago
  >"This is not a club, it is a series of books." According to their website, Girls Who Code runs a set of clubs: https://girlswhocode.com/programs/clubs-program https://girlswhocode.com/programs/clubs-program The books are not the club, but the two seem closely linked.
Woeps 4y ago
While yes every library has limited space this article seems to clearly state this is regarding banning the book. Regarding your son, I don't agree with not allowing boys to participate. (Which I doubt by the way) BUT I do understand why this could happen. Regardless. The situation with your son doesn't add anything to the discussion about the book being banned
millzlane 4y ago
It looks like anyone is allowed to join. https://girlswhocode.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360040258893-Are-boys-allowed-to-join-Girls-Who-Code-Clubs- https://girlswhocode.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360040258...
- Bostonian 4y ago
  At my son's high school, boys were not welcome to join the Girls Who Code after school club. And let's be realistic. Even if the fine print on some site boys are allowed, the name is unwelcoming to them.
  - kazinator 4y ago
    > boys were not welcome to join the Girls Who Code after school club That's undoubtedly encouraging news to Moms for Liberty. If it was like that everywhere, they might reverse their stance.
  - kiwih 4y ago
    That sounds like an issue with the school, not with the book? Perhaps you could reach out and have a friendly discussion with the organizers. One anecdote to another, as a man, I have participated in numerous "women in engineering" tech days and sessions. I don't find them unwelcoming at all.
beardicus 4y ago
1. book bans have nothing to do with shelf space. it's weird that you would even bring this up. 2. the school board president does not mention book quality in their statement at all, but rather content objections. did you read the article? 3. this is a book, not a club, but also the associated organization states the following regarding boys in their local clubs: "we encourage our Clubs to welcome any member who wishes to join the Girls Who Code mission irrespective of gender identity".
rolph 4y ago
stack weeding, and book banning, are different animals.

0xbadcafebee 4y ago

> public schools should not be supporting clubs that discriminate on the basis of sex Then they must ban football, baseball, basketball, tennis, soccer, etc

Bostonian 4y ago
Public schools are required by Title IX to have roughly equivalent athletic programs for boys and girls. There are girls' teams for all of the sports you listed, except football. There is no Boys Who Code club at our school or any other.
- 0xbadcafebee 4y ago
  First you say there should be no sex discrimination. Then I say, what about this other thing that has sex discrimination. And you reply, well, that sex discrimination is justified, because reasons. So you already are fine with sex discrimination as long as there is a good reason for it. > There is no Boys Who Code club at our school or any other. Why do you think that is?

jleyank 4y ago

evgen 4y ago

This is not a club, it is a series of books. If you or your son are so threatened by the idea that the main characters of a series of books about problem-solving using coding skills (and teaching of same) can be girls then I think the one who has a problem here is you.

nickff 4y ago
>"This is not a club, it is a series of books." According to their website, Girls Who Code runs a set of clubs: https://girlswhocode.com/programs/clubs-program https://girlswhocode.com/programs/clubs-program The books are not the club, but the two seem closely linked.

Woeps 4y ago

While yes every library has limited space this article seems to clearly state this is regarding banning the book. Regarding your son, I don't agree with not allowing boys to participate. (Which I doubt by the way) BUT I do understand why this could happen. Regardless. The situation with your son doesn't add anything to the discussion about the book being banned

millzlane 4y ago

It looks like anyone is allowed to join. https://girlswhocode.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360040258893-Are-boys-allowed-to-join-Girls-Who-Code-Clubs- https://girlswhocode.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360040258...

Bostonian 4y ago
At my son's high school, boys were not welcome to join the Girls Who Code after school club. And let's be realistic. Even if the fine print on some site boys are allowed, the name is unwelcoming to them.
- kazinator 4y ago
  > boys were not welcome to join the Girls Who Code after school club That's undoubtedly encouraging news to Moms for Liberty. If it was like that everywhere, they might reverse their stance.
- kiwih 4y ago
  That sounds like an issue with the school, not with the book? Perhaps you could reach out and have a friendly discussion with the organizers. One anecdote to another, as a man, I have participated in numerous "women in engineering" tech days and sessions. I don't find them unwelcoming at all.

beardicus 4y ago

1. book bans have nothing to do with shelf space. it's weird that you would even bring this up. 2. the school board president does not mention book quality in their statement at all, but rather content objections. did you read the article? 3. this is a book, not a club, but also the associated organization states the following regarding boys in their local clubs: "we encourage our Clubs to welcome any member who wishes to join the Girls Who Code mission irrespective of gender identity".

rolph 4y ago

stack weeding, and book banning, are different animals.